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NZ PPL holder - If its been 5 years since I completed a BFR, have a lost my licence?

Old 3rd Feb 2018, 04:10
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NZ PPL holder - If its been 5 years since I completed a BFR, have a lost my licence?

Living in Australia and looking at my BFR it expired in 2015, if I havn't done another BFR before the end of 2018 (5 years) what are the implications. Will I need to sit the law exams again, re sit a flight test etc?
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 18:00
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All PPLs issued or renewed via BFR in NZ since the late '80s (forget the exact year) are lifetime licenses, so you won't need to do an initial issue flight test with a flight examiner again. If five years have elapsed since your last BFR you will need to do the PPL law exam again, and then a BFR and NZ medical to be current again.
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 21:55
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What about for a NZ CPL holder with an Aus ATPL? Would I have to do an NZ law exam to get my NZ PPL back?
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 19:55
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Thanks nzflyingkiwi, appreciate the advice
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Old 5th Feb 2018, 03:03
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AerocatS2A pretty sure that is the case.

No ZK in logbook for five years it is law exam, medical and BFR again, no matter how current or recognised the licence is that you operate under now.

Actually easier for an Australian CPL holder to get a NZ CPL under TTMRA than it is for a returning NZ CPL holder to get legal again.

Unless something has changed recently.
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Also something else to note, this may have changed so I'd suggest investigating further, but certainly until recently there was a rather strange rule which required when you did a NZ BFR, if the law exam was required (i.e. more than 5 years elapsed since last BFR) you had to do a law exam for the highest license you have held, even if you're not doing the BFR for that license. In other words you'd have to do a CPL law exam even if you were just doing a PPL BFR. As I said that may have changed, but I know it has caught people out in the past.
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Old 5th Feb 2018, 08:53
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AerocatS2A pretty sure that is the case.

No ZK in logbook for five years it is law exam, medical and BFR again, no matter how current or recognised the licence is that you operate under now.

Actually easier for an Australian CPL holder to get a NZ CPL under TTMRA than it is for a returning NZ CPL holder to get legal again.

Unless something has changed recently.
Perhaps I could TTMRA my Aus ATPL to NZ ATPL?
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AerocatS2A - My understanding is - are you sitting down for this?

If you used TTMRA to transfer from NZ to AUS you cannot then TTMRA AUS back to NZ (and vice versa) you have to comply with condx already stated. ie that of the country where licence was originally issued.

However if you transferred prior to TTMRA and did it the old way, ie hours recognised but still have to do exams and flight tests and have the licence issued from scratch as it were I think you probably should qualify to TTMRA back. Probably be issued as a brand new TTMRA licence, not as revalidating your old one, I would think.

But! Don't take my word for it. That is what it used to be, it may have changed and their website used to have pretty good info which it still might.
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