Use of alternative simulators in Australia
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Can anyone confirm to me whether or not there is an alternative simulator which has the potential for use instead of low level flight training in the Cessna Conquest? I had heard rumours that some companies use a Kingair sim instead, given that there is no Conquest sim in Australia.
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I'm not looking for Conquest training. I'm trying to find out if there is an alternative to low level training which would have meant that I may have had my fiancee here today instead of him being dead. I'm still waiting for the ATSB report, however I truly believe that simulating engine failure at 400 feet is a practice which should not be occurring.
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Amen.
Ansett Flight Training in Melbourne has smaller turbo-prop sims (Metro/Brasilia/King Air/SAAB).
"Maintain the rage!"
Ansett Flight Training in Melbourne has smaller turbo-prop sims (Metro/Brasilia/King Air/SAAB).
"Maintain the rage!"
Use of alternative simulators in Australia
ChoppaGirl,
A couple of years ago a CareFlight pilot told me they go to Melbourne and Norway twice a year for King Air SIM training and they never do engine failures in the aircraft. IIRC the reason for the different simulators is to bridge the gap between the old steam driven King Air and the modern glass cockpit version.
Based on the CareFlight example, to answer your question, I would think even if Conquest training in a King Air simulator was legal, that it would not be practical.
A couple of years ago a CareFlight pilot told me they go to Melbourne and Norway twice a year for King Air SIM training and they never do engine failures in the aircraft. IIRC the reason for the different simulators is to bridge the gap between the old steam driven King Air and the modern glass cockpit version.
Based on the CareFlight example, to answer your question, I would think even if Conquest training in a King Air simulator was legal, that it would not be practical.
Last edited by pithblot; 21st Mar 2018 at 13:53. Reason: They go for simulator training.
From a training and safety point of view it is actually not that relevant which light turboprop you do your asymmetric training in. Even one you’re not endorsed on.
The sim is a good representation but not prefect. In the real world there are variations in the day, weight, cog, torque etc No two asymmetric events are the same. You’re not learning the exact amount to move a particular control, you’re learning a series of events and actions to apply and refine to get the desired result.
What is important is the feet ballet to get the ball in the right spot, to get the wing at the right angle of bank and watch that speed like a hawk.
The methods to avoid Vmca events are pretty similar across the board. Get it right on one type or more and you can apply to other types.
I know of at least one turboprop operator in oz for which no sim exists that uses other turboprop sims to keep its pilots current on asymmetric work.
The sim is a good representation but not prefect. In the real world there are variations in the day, weight, cog, torque etc No two asymmetric events are the same. You’re not learning the exact amount to move a particular control, you’re learning a series of events and actions to apply and refine to get the desired result.
What is important is the feet ballet to get the ball in the right spot, to get the wing at the right angle of bank and watch that speed like a hawk.
The methods to avoid Vmca events are pretty similar across the board. Get it right on one type or more and you can apply to other types.
I know of at least one turboprop operator in oz for which no sim exists that uses other turboprop sims to keep its pilots current on asymmetric work.
Last edited by compressor stall; 21st Mar 2018 at 17:08.
