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I think that the OP is forgetting that little thing called self responsibility. If you are going to put yourself out there and paint a nice picture to an adoring audience that laps up pictures of you in full uniform on the beach with your dog but then cause your company all sorts of issues behind the scenes then you can expect to get a bit of a ribbing from your peers.
So you still think it's a good laugh knowing it drove someone to self harm?
There are rumors of one of the targets being left mentally in bad shape since being publicly shamed and laughed at by his peers.
Another reality check. If commercial pilots are "self harming" themselves because they couldn't deal with comments that didn't pan out the way they hoped they would on the internet, well, they properly don't qualify under that "fit and proper person" category to be at the controls of an aircraft anyway.
Again, I refer back to the abuse of anonymity on the internet and how no one seems to have a problem with THAT, like you cowards have more moral fiber than the targets of this abuse.
Yet here you sit, behind the veil of anonymity calling me a coward? The irony.
You can talk about PC and victim-hood all you want, but unfortunately for people like you, the courts don't see it that way when it is pushed too far. The justice lies in the fact that absolutely everything can be traced on the internet. Screen names, proxies, VPNs mean nothing when legality becomes involved. Even PPRuNe has been known to provide information about it's posters that has lead to huge trouble on posters end
It's a little different to reporting something to Admin on social media and screaming "i'm offended" when you didn't like what you saw.
The problem is you don't seem to be able to differentiate between the two. Either that, or you are purposely trying to conflate the two for whatever reason you felt the need to start this thread.
Maybe that changes how you waste your time on the internet rather than cheering on school yard bullying like a 14 year old girl.
I think I would rather the more stable type sitting up the front.
If you are going to buckle over social media posts, you should inform your doctor before your next medical.
If you are going to buckle over social media posts, you should inform your doctor before your next medical.
My nephew and his girlfriend came to stay with me recently. They are very into social media and the GF has about 10,000 followers on FB/instagram etc.
Apparently it's all to do with how many "likes" you get from a post. The more likes the more "status" you have. These two people are totally convinced if they get enough followers they will be able to generate enough income to not work a "boring" job.
I remember when everyone just wanted to be an actor or a writer. Now they all want to be bloggers/vloggers and twitter feed gods. Hence they post stupid/ridiculous things to get more likes but when it goes wrong it's everyone else's fault. Their account was hacked or their drink was spiked. I am having a tough time at home. Its not my fault I posted topless pictures of myself in a nightclub toilet.
Apparently it's all to do with how many "likes" you get from a post. The more likes the more "status" you have. These two people are totally convinced if they get enough followers they will be able to generate enough income to not work a "boring" job.
I remember when everyone just wanted to be an actor or a writer. Now they all want to be bloggers/vloggers and twitter feed gods. Hence they post stupid/ridiculous things to get more likes but when it goes wrong it's everyone else's fault. Their account was hacked or their drink was spiked. I am having a tough time at home. Its not my fault I posted topless pictures of myself in a nightclub toilet.
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These delicate flowers could turn their smart phone off and leave it in their flight bag for flight operations use only.
Or throw the smart phone away and buy a dumb phone and don't pay for any data at all: The Nokia 3310 is back and the Telstra Easycall 3 or 4 granny phone does not even have a camera so you can't take pictures that would make you look a fool. Make actual phone calls and text the old-fashioned way. Enjoy battery life of a week or more.
Don't have facebook as your pc homepage, have pprune!
These people seem to have forgotten that there is an off switch on these things. Out of sight, out of mind.
Or throw the smart phone away and buy a dumb phone and don't pay for any data at all: The Nokia 3310 is back and the Telstra Easycall 3 or 4 granny phone does not even have a camera so you can't take pictures that would make you look a fool. Make actual phone calls and text the old-fashioned way. Enjoy battery life of a week or more.
Don't have facebook as your pc homepage, have pprune!
These people seem to have forgotten that there is an off switch on these things. Out of sight, out of mind.
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I heard that someone was posting on pprune regularly and someone whom didn't like them, complained to their employer (government) and they were investigated for a bunch of things that never actually happened, thus wasting much time and effort. As a result the complainant is now being investigated for making a false complaint which is looking to be quite serious (being a criminal charge of course), which could affect their ability to obtain an ASIC card or more for starters. I wonder if said complainant is biting their nails right now !
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You're pettifogging kingRB. This thread isn't about 90% of what you're raging about. It's about how pilots behave and treat their peers.
You find that sort of thing funny, well I find your sense of humor tasteless and your lack of empathy quite sad.
You're welcome, I find people like you fascinating. But I don't want to control anymore of your time. I can't imagine there's much left after the hours you must spend flicking through a thesaurus and over-engineering your sentences to sound smart on the internet:
Yikes.
You find that sort of thing funny, well I find your sense of humor tasteless and your lack of empathy quite sad.
thanks for taking an interest in how I spend my spare time on the internet. I'm sure you'd love to be able to control that too if you could.
let's stop the virtue signalling hyperbole shall we?
Thanks for the context, I don't have twitter.
That photo certainty begs for comments!
Certainly a security sensitive area or shows signs where it maybe lacking! might be a nice guy, but not real brite for career advancement.
* Note it is a fact it is a "secure area"
* Note it is a fact it will not advance his career - but may hinder it!
So it is not a personal attack, just 2 facts.
That photo certainty begs for comments!
Certainly a security sensitive area or shows signs where it maybe lacking! might be a nice guy, but not real brite for career advancement.
* Note it is a fact it is a "secure area"
* Note it is a fact it will not advance his career - but may hinder it!
So it is not a personal attack, just 2 facts.
If I was ripped like that guy I would be proud of the photo and hope it went viral but the photo-shopping is rather obvious. Is this the type of picture we are talking about here? Does this cause angst or self harm to the person in the photo? Good grief, strange world, that of social media.
Easie, so sorry but I agree with the King, tis you that is pettifogging .... Whatever that means.
Easie, so sorry but I agree with the King, tis you that is pettifogging .... Whatever that means.
Yikes.
I can't imagine there's much left after the hours you must spend flicking through a thesaurus and over-engineering your sentences to sound smart on the internet
Maybe i'll start selfing harming too. How can you live with yourself?
'Spuds' was one of the greatest, funniest facebook pages in a long time. Up there with Aussie Man Reviews....but I guess the Politically Correct thought police dont like that page either...
As others have said, if you put something up for public consumption that is clearly showboating, then be prepared for some blowback.
Even though I am obviously using a 'handle' name to post under here on PPRUNE, I only ever write things that I am prepared to defend either to other people (my peers) or in a court.
Perhaps the original poster would like to think back to the days where a pilot might announce his job title before his name in a public gathering setting. In those pre-social media days do you think the responses were ALL positive to that sort of behaviour? Similar, no?
As others have said, if you put something up for public consumption that is clearly showboating, then be prepared for some blowback.
Even though I am obviously using a 'handle' name to post under here on PPRUNE, I only ever write things that I am prepared to defend either to other people (my peers) or in a court.
Perhaps the original poster would like to think back to the days where a pilot might announce his job title before his name in a public gathering setting. In those pre-social media days do you think the responses were ALL positive to that sort of behaviour? Similar, no?
May you never suffer from depression
However the OP appears disingenuous, claiming bullying / harassment where it didn't exist, and trivializing mental illness as an excuse to shut down something they saw and didn't like on the internet.
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Cordwainer, while I am not exactly "sticks and stones" on the matter, the fact is, in order for these demeaning sites (wherever they may be) to prosper an audience is required. You can send me the link but I aren't looking if you do. IMHO the folk who "innocently" view these sites are the root cause of the issue. Like porn addicts, the viewers think that simply looking at images causes no harm. I think they are wrong.
My recent short foray into Facebook to promote a business left me perplexed and underwhelmed. Endless self promotion, pictures of dinner, folk posting stuff to get nothing more than likes, pure garbage videos and targeted advertising was all that I could see. The whole thing left me cold. If Facebook posts are what is causing the ridicule then the poster deserves some of the blame.
My recent short foray into Facebook to promote a business left me perplexed and underwhelmed. Endless self promotion, pictures of dinner, folk posting stuff to get nothing more than likes, pure garbage videos and targeted advertising was all that I could see. The whole thing left me cold. If Facebook posts are what is causing the ridicule then the poster deserves some of the blame.
I would still argue against your final sentence as a blanket statement - it's a bit too similar to claiming the victim of a crime was "asking for it". The posters may be anything from ill-advised, to rampant narcissists, to people who simply don't understand how to restrict viewing of their Facebook page to friends only. But they're not causing the ridicule.
The root causes I believe are immaturity or cruelty or a combination of the two, exacerbated by an increasing amount of similar media bolstered by claims the victims "can't take a joke" or "have no sense of humor". The cause of ridicule is the mindset of those who believe ridiculing others, even total strangers, purely for the sake of their own amusement, is somehow OK.
I'd continue to assert it's not. There's a difference, for example, between satire about a genuine public figure to make a point, i.e., to point out a crime or injustice, or something that adversely affects society as a whole....as opposed to making fun of some poor schmuck who was just following the advice of hundreds of articles about using social media for business or self promotion.
But, yes, I wholeheartedly agree the audience for that sort of mockery is not innocent. It's why I have very harsh replies to anyone who is foolish enough to send me links to something like the quite objectionable "People of Walmart" or similar posts that are devoted solely to making fun of the poor, overweight, homeless, mentally ill, etc.
Hoping you'll take no offense at my reply, as I do think we're basically of like mind here, and with thanks for your own well-thought-out post.