Bendigo Hard Landing 17-Dec-2017
A student instructor (who came across a little meekly in their briefings and in flight pattering) was flying a lesson when I pretended to play a terrified student who started yelling and grabbed the controls and tried to pull the nose up to avoid us "crashing".
The trainee was a little confused but then started asking politely to "please keep your hands and feet clear of the controls".
I simply upped my performance. Finally the student got the message and took charge and led to a good debrief and discussion about command and leadership and being firm but fair.
I thought I had done a good job and was feeling pretty pleased with myself.
The student learnt the lesson. Too well.
Later in his training (I was playing the student again) the student was clearly about to inadvertently climb and breach a CTA step.
I was pretty cheesed off at that lapse in awareness and asked what he was doing. The student said we were climbing up to do a stall. Just before we hit the limit I said something like 'no, I don't think so - taking over' and polled forward.
The student thought I was play acting again and said forcefully (but with a slight laugh in his voice, feeling proud that he wouldn't fall for the same trick again) 'no - I have control! let go of the controls!' and pulled firmly back.
We backed and forwarded a couple of times escalating our volume, language and control inputs (and with the trainee gleefully believing he was doing exactly what I wanted) until I could finally out swear and out yell him to convince him to release the stick and that I was not play acting.
The trainee was a little confused but then started asking politely to "please keep your hands and feet clear of the controls".
I simply upped my performance. Finally the student got the message and took charge and led to a good debrief and discussion about command and leadership and being firm but fair.
I thought I had done a good job and was feeling pretty pleased with myself.
The student learnt the lesson. Too well.
Later in his training (I was playing the student again) the student was clearly about to inadvertently climb and breach a CTA step.
I was pretty cheesed off at that lapse in awareness and asked what he was doing. The student said we were climbing up to do a stall. Just before we hit the limit I said something like 'no, I don't think so - taking over' and polled forward.
The student thought I was play acting again and said forcefully (but with a slight laugh in his voice, feeling proud that he wouldn't fall for the same trick again) 'no - I have control! let go of the controls!' and pulled firmly back.
We backed and forwarded a couple of times escalating our volume, language and control inputs (and with the trainee gleefully believing he was doing exactly what I wanted) until I could finally out swear and out yell him to convince him to release the stick and that I was not play acting.
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Interesting to see in the RAA incident summaries that a clearance was given for a Foxbat to enter runway but it was the wrong aircraft as they said the wrong runway and the controller assumed it was another yellow Foxbat and gave the clearance at face value (hope I've got that right).
I (amongst others) have been wondering if the sheer number of identical aircraft would cause a safety issue. They'll have to put a big number on the tail or something. A bit much to expect them to repaint the fleet! I wonder if this has ever been a problem for Oxford or similar in the past...
I (amongst others) have been wondering if the sheer number of identical aircraft would cause a safety issue. They'll have to put a big number on the tail or something. A bit much to expect them to repaint the fleet! I wonder if this has ever been a problem for Oxford or similar in the past...
Jonkster - we always used the "Bloggs On/Bloggs Off" phrases in an effort to minimise the chance of such an occurrence.
Your situation would've been a good learning experience for all!
Such training IS an important aspect of instructor training.
Your situation would've been a good learning experience for all!
Such training IS an important aspect of instructor training.
