New NAIPS forecast format
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Looks like it's back up.
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Can't say I'm a fan out of the gate.
The map section (the actually GAF at the bottom) is straightforward, we just need to get the winds put in there.
The wind/temp grid is way to detailed. What one do you use on big flights, average, the big one, line it up with the graphic at the bottom.
Speaking of the graphic, why is it at the very bottom, after every conceivable NOTAM and location?
The map section (the actually GAF at the bottom) is straightforward, we just need to get the winds put in there.
The wind/temp grid is way to detailed. What one do you use on big flights, average, the big one, line it up with the graphic at the bottom.
Speaking of the graphic, why is it at the very bottom, after every conceivable NOTAM and location?
agreed ddoth, no idea why they couldn't just put the winds in there as well. And could they please put the actual Freezing level? "Abv 10000ft" just seems silly, they obviously know what it is, so just put it there!
le Pingouin, why only up to 10,000ft? They seemed to do just fine with Area Forecasts going a lot further up prior to this. I was told by someone from BOM that it was done so as to allow them to increase the frequency of TAFs being issued to which I've seen no difference in the year since it changed.
They obviously know what the actual freezing level is, so why not just put it there like they've always been able to?
They obviously know what the actual freezing level is, so why not just put it there like they've always been able to?
My understanding for the change to 10,000ft (as seen previously in ARFORs) was for standardising the products globally.
e.g. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviatio...charts-details
If you're flying above 10,000ft the GAF isn't applicable so why include information that can't be used in conjunction with the rest of the forecast? If you're higher than 10,000ft you can use the grid point wind and temperature forecasts to find the freezing level.
e.g. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviatio...charts-details
If you're flying above 10,000ft the GAF isn't applicable so why include information that can't be used in conjunction with the rest of the forecast? If you're higher than 10,000ft you can use the grid point wind and temperature forecasts to find the freezing level.
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The obsolete area forecast winds covered a large area. If one were planning a long trip it was easy. Just pick the wind at your intended level and use that for planning. The wind would possibly cover the entire route. The small grids on the new forecast have frequent wind changes. The chart is small with no place names so a track line is a bit of a guess.
EFBs will do the work for you but how does one plan a flight through multiple grids? How would a student cope with planning a long nav on a nav computer? What are instructors teaching?
EFBs will do the work for you but how does one plan a flight through multiple grids? How would a student cope with planning a long nav on a nav computer? What are instructors teaching?
My understanding is that Australia now has:
- 10 GAF areas
- 9 GPWT areas (because some of the GAFS are ‘amalgamated’ for GPWT purposes), and
- 28 Area QNH areas.
Do I have that right?
I haven’t met anyone who says they asked for this change. I’m guessing it will be justified on international consistency grounds. Would be great if they applied the consistency principle consistently...
I’ve been wondering that, too. Do they have to plan ‘mini legs’ for each grid?
My understanding is that Australia now has:
- 10 GAF areas
- 9 GPWT areas (because some of the GAFS are ‘amalgamated’ for GPWT purposes), and
- 28 Area QNH areas.
Do I have that right?
I haven’t met anyone who says they asked for this change. I’m guessing it will be justified on international consistency grounds. Would be great if they applied the consistency principle consistently...
My understanding is that Australia now has:
- 10 GAF areas
- 9 GPWT areas (because some of the GAFS are ‘amalgamated’ for GPWT purposes), and
- 28 Area QNH areas.
Do I have that right?
I haven’t met anyone who says they asked for this change. I’m guessing it will be justified on international consistency grounds. Would be great if they applied the consistency principle consistently...
This is incompetence on a grand scale.
And the NOTAM this morning is a joke. It’s pretty much saying don’t submit flight plans electronically and go to the BOM wed site for weather.
I don’t think I have seen such disruption / incompetence in 40 years. I thin’ this eclipses the CASA part 61 implementation debacle, the CASA ELT implementation debacle and the CASA ADSB implementation debacle.
This ought to be front page news. Where are the journalists who troll this site when you need them?
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One more 'little' gripe.
About to jump in the aircraft 0315Z.
Jumped into the GAF, earliest available is 'Valid 0500Z to 1100Z'
What happened to the one that had a validity through 0300Z?
(or am I missing something obvious ...)
About to jump in the aircraft 0315Z.
Jumped into the GAF, earliest available is 'Valid 0500Z to 1100Z'
What happened to the one that had a validity through 0300Z?
(or am I missing something obvious ...)