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Lord Howe Island accident

Old 30th Oct 2017, 05:37
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Lord Howe Island accident

Ok, who crashed their Kingair at Lord Howe Island? Itís still sitting there next to the runway in a bad state.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 05:56
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Nice weather...
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New rpt mob out of port mac. They off to a bad start one would say.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 07:44
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Anyone got a photo? Or more details of what went wrong?
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 07:50
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Believe hit prop and took off one wing or badly broken. Old snot box. 1981 b200. Think bb 998 13000plus ex nz airforce
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 07:51
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Originally Posted by Connedrod View Post
New rpt mob out of port mac. They off to a bad start one would say.
The KingAir out of Port Maquarie looks to have got there and back today no worries according to FR24 and FlightAware.
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The KingAir out of Port Maquarie looks to have got there and back today no worries according to FR24 and FlightAware.
Itís not the same one - different operator.
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Old 31st Oct 2017, 00:37
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Word filtering through the King Air had CB's en route, approach turbulence on both runways and then wind shear on landing.

Is a RPT King Air required to carry return fuel
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Old 31st Oct 2017, 01:00
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-- approach turbulence on both runways and then wind shear on landing.
Folks,
In other words, a normal day at Lord Howe.
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I don't know when this accident occurred, but there is nothing on the ATSB website about it.
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I don't know when this accident occurred, but there is nothing on the ATSB website about it.
just like there is nothing about the aircraft that burned to ash after a crash on landing at YMAA over the weekend. Lack of resources in Canberra ?
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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 08:39
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Hard landing resulting in unplanned bent bits.



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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 14:30
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Folks,
With that amount of structural damage, (including what you can't see, but it will be there) it will be interesting to see what the insurance company does.
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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 20:04
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It will be shipped out, cut up (and shipped out) or repaired onsite and flown out. Those are the options. Either way, it will leave the island. Each of those options will be of a similar level of expenditure.
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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 21:31
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Don’ t think that will be repairable on Lord Howe Island, more likely shipped out on the barge to Port Macquarie, along with the rest of the scrap from the Island.

Might be the photo, but the nacelle look likes it sitting a bit lower than normal.
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 01:49
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Article in today's Weekend Australian titled "Weather report ban linked to air crash".

Not linked by the ATSB or CASA though.

Article says that the airport operator removed contact details (for UNICOM?) from ERSA due to CASA not renewing someone's "licence to provide detailed weather observations to pilots unless he spent $20,000 on a meteorological training course".
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 03:30
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Here you go Cap'n.

2:00amANTHONY KLAN
Restrictions on weather information to incoming flights on Lord Howe has been linked to an *accident.

Weather report restriction linked to Lord Howe air crash

An intervention by the aviation safety regulator restricting a veteran harbour master from providing crucial weather information to incoming flights at Lord Howe Island has been linked to a serious *accident.

Clive Wilson has intricate knowledge of the treacherous weather patterns and cross winds on the remote island and for decades radioed this knowledge to incoming flights. His volunteer work was encouraged by airlines, the RAAF and air ambulance services.

But three years ago the Civil Aviation Safety Authority told Mr Wilson, who had been manning the radio since 1956, it would not renew his licence to provide detailed weather observations to pilots unless he spent $20,000 on a meteorological training course.

On Friday morning last week a 13-seater twin-turboprop King Air 200 carrying five people was seriously damaged when it ploughed into the tarmac, *destroying a propeller and damaging a wing, in an accident so *serious experts said the plane would most likely have to be *returned to the mainland by ship to be repaired.

The previous evening, in similar weather, a medical evacuation flight radioed Mr Wilson for *advice and was told it was too dangerous to land.

It circled for more than an hour before returning to the mainland.

Unlike air force and medevac pilots, many flight operators — including Port Macquarie-based Eastern Air Services, which had been flying the King Air commercially into Lord Howe since *December — no longer radio Mr Wilson for advice on conditions on the ground.

Mr Wilson said this was in part because many pilots were no longer aware he provided the service — his name and contact details were removed from the *region’s pilot guide at the insistence of the Lord Howe Island airport administration amid the spat with CASA.

“That morning (of the accident) the wind was gusting up to 50 knots and my respectful advice would have been abandon what you are doing and go home,” Mr Wilson told The Weekend Australian yesterday.

“My normal conversation in those circumstances would have been ‘the conditions are difficult and unpredictable and there is a high-level of risk in attempting to approach Lord Howe under these conditions’.”

Former Qantas pilot Bill Hamilton said the action by CASA was a “textbook case of mindless bureaucracy trumping common sense” and it was “putting lives at risk”.

“Almost all of the rest of the world would see Clive’s efforts as essential but we’re a country where compliance with ratbag regulations take precedence over commonsense,” Mr Hamilton said.

An Australian Transport *Safety Bureau spokesman confirmed a King Air 200 turboprop aircraft had lost control and had been involved in an accident on Lord Howe Island at 7.20am on October 27.

“During final approach, the aircraft encountered a strong downdraft, resulting in a hard landing with substantial damage to the right wing and propeller,” the spokesman said.

“The ATSB reviewed the incident and is not investigating.”

There were five people on board, none of whom was injured.

A CASA spokesman said the regulator would not investigate as it usually only reviewed accidents that were more serious — where injuries or deaths had occurred as a result of systemic mechanical or other problems.

Eastern Air Services did not return calls yesterday.

On its website the company was advertising seven-day holiday packages from Port Macquarie to Lord Howe Island — aboard the King Air 200 — *between October and December from $1199 twin-share.

And they have the hide to call themselves "Safety Authorities"
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Funny how they've decided not Investigate it ey? This should be made a bigger deal of, perhaps start to expose their idiotic drive to increase regulations and remove the use of common sense!
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 04:31
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CAsA - hang your heads!

So what we see is

A prop - new


A engine inspection


Stub wing extensive repair


Disassemble for barge ferry


Re assemble after repairs


Unless it is massively over insured it will be a write off.
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