N24A Nomad Parts, Spares, Support
I think you'll find "few" is an overstatement, in Australia there is only 1 N24A and 1 N22C still flying around. Same engines I believe and only reason they're still flying is because their engine cores are the same as the ones used in Jetrangers.
Support is minimal, Airframe parts are basically whatever you can scrounge from ones being scrapped and Engine Parts are either the same or if you're lucky have a common part from the JetRanger.
I believe that if you're going to buy one, then make sure you buy two and use the second one as used parts if you want to keep it going.
Support is minimal, Airframe parts are basically whatever you can scrounge from ones being scrapped and Engine Parts are either the same or if you're lucky have a common part from the JetRanger.
I believe that if you're going to buy one, then make sure you buy two and use the second one as used parts if you want to keep it going.
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Dunno what manouvers took place after a few years back. Boeing inherited it after buying ASTA. All I know is we used to have to deal with Boeing for spares back then. Some time ago now. Back when ATO was still being used as a jump ship.
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Hadn’t Mahindra planned on rebuilding?
Or are they concentrating on the GA-10 etc?
Or are they concentrating on the GA-10 etc?
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When Douglas Airways went bagarap back in 1990 there were still two Nomad airframes as I remember. One an engineless hulk on the tarmac and another in the maintenance hangar.
Both were cut up for scrap metal.
Both were cut up for scrap metal.
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What ever happened to plans to restart Nomad production?
Try the PNG Defense Force or the Philippine Air Force, they may still have N24 spares available which a few dollars in the right hands may set free?
Was told a few months ago during a visit to the Mahindra facility at Latrobe that they're focusing on the GA-10 right now and once that's up and running (round about now?) They'll start putting the focus back into their version of the Nomad.
Hope "their" version has a few changes. A horizontal stab with elevators, a few more HP,s so maybe some Garrets, bit thicker skins and a basic hydraulic under carriage would be a start.
Threw the last of my Nomad parts out about a year or so ago.
Threw the last of my Nomad parts out about a year or so ago.
Knowing their design philosophy is majorly centered around commonality, you can expect it to be a cross between the GA-10 and the Traditional Nomad I'd say. There's a surprisingly large amount of common parts between their Fatman Aircraft, Low-wing NM5s and GA-8s, never would have known until they showed me around and pointed it out!
I did give some stuff to the museum, mostly very old books.
But to be honest they don't seem well set up for collections.
Yes actually cost of dumping at tent sites is prohibitive.
But to be honest they don't seem well set up for collections.
Yes actually cost of dumping at tent sites is prohibitive.
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Knowing their design philosophy is majorly centered around commonality, you can expect it to be a cross between the GA-10 and the Traditional Nomad I'd say. There's a surprisingly large amount of common parts between their Fatman Aircraft, Low-wing NM5s and GA-8s, never would have known until they showed me around and pointed it out!
I'd expect the GA8 and 10 to be similar (which of course they are) but doubt that will carry through to the Nomad other than it being built on the same equipment.
I'd be surprised if it was in any way similar to the GA10 as otherwise the expenditure on the type certificate from Boeing would be a waste of cash and the aircraft would require full recertification and you'd be building something from scratch effectively.
I'd expect the GA8 and 10 to be similar (which of course they are) but doubt that will carry through to the Nomad other than it being built on the same equipment.
I'd expect the GA8 and 10 to be similar (which of course they are) but doubt that will carry through to the Nomad other than it being built on the same equipment.
It will need to be built from scratch effectively (as the Nomad failed)- but my bet is the type certificate was very very cheap and was only for any patents that may have been an issue.
Basically buying back intellectual property on the Nomad.
But go the Garret guys, not the PT6 - just check that C208 on floats comparison and a better fuel burn.
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(as the Nomad failed)
I don't think that that is quite correct or fair to the aircraft ..
As djpil and I can attest from our respective times in an OEM fleet support chair, several operators who used the aircraft sensibly and maintained it appropriately were noted to observe that the only aircraft which could replace their Nomads (in niche roles) was another Nomad.
It was not an aircraft well suited either to fly by night maintenance or cowboy operators ...
Of course it had its shortcomings, many of which arose from the nature of the organisation behind it .. but, along with those shortcomings were a few strengths, if the operator chose to exploit them well.
There was one event at the organisation (to do with spares) which was enough to have a chap cry tears into his beer .. probably not appropriate to relate it here .. but I'll save it for Fris B.'s shock when I eventually get up to see him with some Ansair drawings promised some time ago ..
I don't think that that is quite correct or fair to the aircraft ..
As djpil and I can attest from our respective times in an OEM fleet support chair, several operators who used the aircraft sensibly and maintained it appropriately were noted to observe that the only aircraft which could replace their Nomads (in niche roles) was another Nomad.
It was not an aircraft well suited either to fly by night maintenance or cowboy operators ...
Of course it had its shortcomings, many of which arose from the nature of the organisation behind it .. but, along with those shortcomings were a few strengths, if the operator chose to exploit them well.
There was one event at the organisation (to do with spares) which was enough to have a chap cry tears into his beer .. probably not appropriate to relate it here .. but I'll save it for Fris B.'s shock when I eventually get up to see him with some Ansair drawings promised some time ago ..
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I was involved in the Nomad project with Mahindra, sadly they screwed us all over.
Some Facts
* Mahindra / GippsAero purchased the entire spare parts inventory and type certificate from Boeing for a lousy $1 on condition they provide spare parts support for the remaining nomad operators across the world.
* There are two warehouses located in Morwell about 10 kilometres from the Latrobe Valley airport and mahindra’s factory and these contain thousands of aircraft parts for the nomad (I know as I set these up).
* Mahindra did the dirty on the chief engineer who in fact worked for government aircraft factory’s all those years ago and also flew the purchased nomad across from New Zealand and was the only person able to fly it. This ended badly with this person suing the company for breach of contract resulting in almost half a million dollars in damages being paid tto this engineer
* The plan was to have the airvan’s tail design developed onto the GA18
* Sadly, a lot of highly skilled engineers were let go when this project collapsed and I very much doubt it will resume. There is no mention of the GA18 on any marketing material nor on any internal memos.
Cheers
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Some Facts
* Mahindra / GippsAero purchased the entire spare parts inventory and type certificate from Boeing for a lousy $1 on condition they provide spare parts support for the remaining nomad operators across the world.
* There are two warehouses located in Morwell about 10 kilometres from the Latrobe Valley airport and mahindra’s factory and these contain thousands of aircraft parts for the nomad (I know as I set these up).
* Mahindra did the dirty on the chief engineer who in fact worked for government aircraft factory’s all those years ago and also flew the purchased nomad across from New Zealand and was the only person able to fly it. This ended badly with this person suing the company for breach of contract resulting in almost half a million dollars in damages being paid tto this engineer
* The plan was to have the airvan’s tail design developed onto the GA18
* Sadly, a lot of highly skilled engineers were let go when this project collapsed and I very much doubt it will resume. There is no mention of the GA18 on any marketing material nor on any internal memos.
Cheers
avguru