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Old 19th Sep 2017, 09:03
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Warrior down near Bankstown

Pilot, passenger walk away after light plane makes emergency landing in Sydney field - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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I doubt whether that'll buff out...
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No buffing out for that, it's spare parts and the scrap heap for that old girl I'd dare say!

Good to see all escape relatively unscathed!
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Basair....
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ATC recording at about 3 min 30, another aircraft spots and describes 11 min 57
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ys...2017-0500Z.mp3

Some further images
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2VQU4Zt45Y

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BDB is/was an Archer.
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Flapless Approach?

Perhaps the damage might have been a little less had the flaps been deployed....or, did they get 'knocked' back up on impact..??

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The flap handle is a long stick located in the centre of the floor between the seats. I would say it was lowered back down to assist quick evacuation after impact. Not trying to protect the PF but that's what I would do if I wanted to get out quick.
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Thankyou '777', that's how it was many years ago when I last flew a PA.28, But I thought they may have gone 'electric' by now.

My comment was an 'observation' from the photo.

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He also may have retracted the flaps on touch down for better braking?
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Originally Posted by Ixixly
He also may have retracted the flaps on touch down for better braking?
Better braking? Do you mean with a tailwind?
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Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth
Better braking? Do you mean with a tailwind?
I would assume Ixixly meant retracting flap to increase load on landing gear and so assist braking action of the wheel brakes
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Yup, that's exactly what I meant jonkster
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Originally Posted by jonkster
I would assume Ixixly meant retracting flap to increase load on landing gear and so assist braking action of the wheel brakes
I've never actually heard of that.

I assume you mean to increase load on the wheels/tires to increase traction in order to avoid skidding, particularly on grass or similar non bitumen surfaces.
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Perhaps the damage might have been a little less had the flaps been deployed....or, did they get 'knocked' back up on impact..??
I suspect there are a few parts of that aircraft that weren't in that position before impact
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Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth
I've never actually heard of that.

I assume you mean to increase load on the wheels/tires to increase traction in order to avoid skidding, particularly on grass or similar non bitumen surfaces.
Probably better on hard surfaces actually but yes. A number of light aircraft have this technique mentioned in their POH
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Flaps look negative to me. Do they have a Maule type setting...





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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
Flaps look negative to me. Do they have a Maule type setting..
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No just three pre set stages of positive
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As no-one has said it yet...

well done to crew for putting it down and walking away!
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And a reminder if involved in an incident or accident, not to say anything to anyone, regardless of how innocent it may seem. You need time to recover and gather your thoughts.
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