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outlandishoutlanding 19th Sep 2017 09:03

Warrior down near Bankstown
 
Pilot, passenger walk away after light plane makes emergency landing in Sydney field - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

VH-BDB

Capn Bloggs 19th Sep 2017 09:05

I doubt whether that'll buff out...

Ixixly 19th Sep 2017 11:04

No buffing out for that, it's spare parts and the scrap heap for that old girl I'd dare say!

Good to see all escape relatively unscathed!

VH-RME 19th Sep 2017 11:34

Basair....

Alchemy101 19th Sep 2017 11:47

ATC recording at about 3 min 30, another aircraft spots and describes 11 min 57
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ys...2017-0500Z.mp3

Some further images
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2VQU4Zt45Y

gerry111 19th Sep 2017 12:52

BDB is/was an Archer.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 20th Sep 2017 01:55

Flapless Approach?

Perhaps the damage might have been a little less had the flaps been deployed....or, did they get 'knocked' back up on impact..??

Cheers

sms777 20th Sep 2017 02:10

The flap handle is a long stick located in the centre of the floor between the seats. I would say it was lowered back down to assist quick evacuation after impact. Not trying to protect the PF but that's what I would do if I wanted to get out quick.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 20th Sep 2017 03:30

Thankyou '777', that's how it was many years ago when I last flew a PA.28, But I thought they may have gone 'electric' by now.

My comment was an 'observation' from the photo.

Cheers

Ixixly 20th Sep 2017 06:29

He also may have retracted the flaps on touch down for better braking?

StickWithTheTruth 20th Sep 2017 06:52


Originally Posted by Ixixly (Post 9897629)
He also may have retracted the flaps on touch down for better braking?

Better braking? Do you mean with a tailwind?

jonkster 20th Sep 2017 07:36


Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth (Post 9897649)
Better braking? Do you mean with a tailwind?

I would assume Ixixly meant retracting flap to increase load on landing gear and so assist braking action of the wheel brakes

Ixixly 20th Sep 2017 07:48

Yup, that's exactly what I meant jonkster

StickWithTheTruth 20th Sep 2017 08:07


Originally Posted by jonkster (Post 9897677)
I would assume Ixixly meant retracting flap to increase load on landing gear and so assist braking action of the wheel brakes

I've never actually heard of that.

I assume you mean to increase load on the wheels/tires to increase traction in order to avoid skidding, particularly on grass or similar non bitumen surfaces.

andrewr 20th Sep 2017 08:38


Perhaps the damage might have been a little less had the flaps been deployed....or, did they get 'knocked' back up on impact..??
I suspect there are a few parts of that aircraft that weren't in that position before impact

jonkster 20th Sep 2017 08:49


Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth (Post 9897702)
I've never actually heard of that.

I assume you mean to increase load on the wheels/tires to increase traction in order to avoid skidding, particularly on grass or similar non bitumen surfaces.

Probably better on hard surfaces actually but yes. A number of light aircraft have this technique mentioned in their POH

Flying Binghi 20th Sep 2017 12:13

Flaps look negative to me. Do they have a Maule type setting...





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YPJT 20th Sep 2017 14:37


Originally Posted by Flying Binghi (Post 9897940)
Flaps look negative to me. Do they have a Maule type setting..
.

No just three pre set stages of positive

MagnumPI 21st Sep 2017 04:10

As no-one has said it yet...

well done to crew for putting it down and walking away! :D

Capt Fathom 21st Sep 2017 04:58

And a reminder if involved in an incident or accident, not to say anything to anyone, regardless of how innocent it may seem. You need time to recover and gather your thoughts.


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