Outback Pilots on Ch 7
Plumber...PPL. ?? Carrying his tools of trade and goods for sale...Mmm NO CPL or AOC ??
Reg 206 and all that. Is that plumbers and photographers have been roasted and toasted for that..! LAMEs too!! But that's the 'Sky cops' for ya...!!
Oh ...and dont forget 2 (7)d...allowing an aircraft to be used for a commercial purpose.
They can do ya twice...how good is that .
But remember...Empty skies are Safe Skies.
Reg 206 and all that. Is that plumbers and photographers have been roasted and toasted for that..! LAMEs too!! But that's the 'Sky cops' for ya...!!
Oh ...and dont forget 2 (7)d...allowing an aircraft to be used for a commercial purpose.
They can do ya twice...how good is that .
But remember...Empty skies are Safe Skies.
I reckon the plumber is relying on the following definition of private ops. So no CPL or AOC required
(7) For the purposes of these Regulations:
(v) the carriage of persons or the carriage of goods without a charge for the carriage being made other than the carriage, for the purposes of trade, of goods being the property of the pilot, the owner or the hirer of the aircraft;
shall be taken to be employed in private operations.
Ah yes...but the goods he carries, are fitted and sold.
And the cost of hiring the aircraft to fly out to the job would be billed to the Govt Dept /whoever that wanted the plumbing job done.....so there is a charge for 'carriage' of the goods, fitted and sold.
All these things, upchucked by the 'regulator'/polisman depend on the spleen of the day/or lack of interest , or otherwise of CAsA persons.
CAsA's great consistency is its inconsistency in the application of "rule of law" or more specifically in their case. their 'law of rules'
Believe me, its a sh*t show.
Different strokes for different folks is rampant.
And the cost of hiring the aircraft to fly out to the job would be billed to the Govt Dept /whoever that wanted the plumbing job done.....so there is a charge for 'carriage' of the goods, fitted and sold.
All these things, upchucked by the 'regulator'/polisman depend on the spleen of the day/or lack of interest , or otherwise of CAsA persons.
CAsA's great consistency is its inconsistency in the application of "rule of law" or more specifically in their case. their 'law of rules'
Believe me, its a sh*t show.
Different strokes for different folks is rampant.
Thread Starter
And the last four posts, ladies and gentlemen, sums up GA in Australia here and now. One regulation, four commentators, and five opinions. (or thereabouts)
NOT one regulation, one clear cut and definitive interpretation.
FFS.
(edit - Anglo Saxon language inspired by unnecessary complexities of regs, not by the opinions expressed.)
NOT one regulation, one clear cut and definitive interpretation.
FFS.
(edit - Anglo Saxon language inspired by unnecessary complexities of regs, not by the opinions expressed.)
What aroa has said is exactly correct, it's a **** show.
I know of a few business who are operating aircraft privately for indirect commercial gain. Only way to try and stamp it out would be for AOC holders to bang on CASA's door and complain. Insurance companies may also have a dim view on paying out in the event of a buster, which could be potentially more painful than a CASA bashing.
I know of a few business who are operating aircraft privately for indirect commercial gain. Only way to try and stamp it out would be for AOC holders to bang on CASA's door and complain. Insurance companies may also have a dim view on paying out in the event of a buster, which could be potentially more painful than a CASA bashing.
And the last four posts, ladies and gentlemen, sums up GA in Australia here and now. One regulation, four commentators, and five opinions. (or thereabouts)
NOT one regulation, one clear cut and definitive interpretation.
FFS.
(edit - Anglo Saxon language inspired by unnecessary complexities of regs, not by the opinions expressed.)
NOT one regulation, one clear cut and definitive interpretation.
FFS.
(edit - Anglo Saxon language inspired by unnecessary complexities of regs, not by the opinions expressed.)
And the great tragedy of all this is... 20 years of lost opportunities..thanks to the bloody minded, control freak bureaucratic bastards and manipulators in (non) Aviation House.
I still have a copy to read (and weep over)....
In April 1997 the Minister and the Board adopted the bold new COOP/ Classification of Operations Policy based on the FARs .
In the section regarding pvt ops was the now allowable..A private pilot, his "tool box" and his aircraft could operate a non passenger carrying business.
A plumber with pipes for sale, an electrician with his light bulbs for sale ...and jezzus wept ,even a photographer with his camera and his images for sale, would have been the go.
In 'Safety Digests' there were even change lists of what you were going to be able to do in this brave new world.
Over the next few years while they/ CAsA or whatever the fcuk they called themselves then,got their arses into gear all this slowly changed and the last vestiges faded off their screen after 5 years. AND IT NEVER HAPPENED.
Open Skies for None....well done the faarking 'Iron Ring' and attendant 'dead wood' !!
And its been downhill ever since. Doesnt say much for the Board either...no guts and go to drive it forward. Nice lunches and dosh tho.
Remember the ASRR ,(CAsA hopes you dont) with all those submissions and subsequent recommendations to be done by CAsA...all going the way of the COOP. Dead over time, with inaction and memory loss, with the Miniscule and pollies of the day long gone.
The aircraft cut out on the Caravan to Canberra read "VH-F*KD. CAsA did it."
How true. !
These days its all about bureaucratic wankery, Managers with titles you cant jump over,
"People and Culture",Stakeholder Engagement.and etc..
CAsA's the stake holder alright...driven right through the heart of GA
I still have a copy to read (and weep over)....
In April 1997 the Minister and the Board adopted the bold new COOP/ Classification of Operations Policy based on the FARs .
In the section regarding pvt ops was the now allowable..A private pilot, his "tool box" and his aircraft could operate a non passenger carrying business.
A plumber with pipes for sale, an electrician with his light bulbs for sale ...and jezzus wept ,even a photographer with his camera and his images for sale, would have been the go.
In 'Safety Digests' there were even change lists of what you were going to be able to do in this brave new world.
Over the next few years while they/ CAsA or whatever the fcuk they called themselves then,got their arses into gear all this slowly changed and the last vestiges faded off their screen after 5 years. AND IT NEVER HAPPENED.
Open Skies for None....well done the faarking 'Iron Ring' and attendant 'dead wood' !!
And its been downhill ever since. Doesnt say much for the Board either...no guts and go to drive it forward. Nice lunches and dosh tho.
Remember the ASRR ,(CAsA hopes you dont) with all those submissions and subsequent recommendations to be done by CAsA...all going the way of the COOP. Dead over time, with inaction and memory loss, with the Miniscule and pollies of the day long gone.
The aircraft cut out on the Caravan to Canberra read "VH-F*KD. CAsA did it."
How true. !
These days its all about bureaucratic wankery, Managers with titles you cant jump over,
"People and Culture",Stakeholder Engagement.and etc..
CAsA's the stake holder alright...driven right through the heart of GA
Top Idea. IB
I could submit an episode. being the video of the contract investigator's interviews with Larard and Retski, two of the Three Tarmac Turds who all swore false testimony that they saw elevators left and right, on the ground and being refitted. !!! I kid you not ..!!
I have 3 sworn testimonies in a hefty prosecution brief to prove it.
Third Turd fled /was let go from CAsA after allegations I made regarding his earlier 'misdemeanours' as an AME. Funny that...never heard form CAsA about those allegations, so they must have been true.
Makes a great story...but unfortunately the Wilga has a bloody great one piece elevator(singular) that had never been off the aircraft.
And these airworthiness "specialists" were even too faarking dumb to know what they were looking at.
No wonder the CDPP bolted. Charge struck out
One asked if he could change his statement !! and another was white with shock at the realization of the big lie.
And their chaperone Williams leant/knocked his head on the tailplane in dismay !!
Makes for top viewing.!
CAsA went to great and costly lengths to protect the perps, calling criminality just CAsA code breaches... a constructive fraud.
And the lies and bull**** continues ....watch this space.
I will have a VERY entertaining Episode 2 shortly.
I could submit an episode. being the video of the contract investigator's interviews with Larard and Retski, two of the Three Tarmac Turds who all swore false testimony that they saw elevators left and right, on the ground and being refitted. !!! I kid you not ..!!
I have 3 sworn testimonies in a hefty prosecution brief to prove it.
Third Turd fled /was let go from CAsA after allegations I made regarding his earlier 'misdemeanours' as an AME. Funny that...never heard form CAsA about those allegations, so they must have been true.
Makes a great story...but unfortunately the Wilga has a bloody great one piece elevator(singular) that had never been off the aircraft.
And these airworthiness "specialists" were even too faarking dumb to know what they were looking at.
No wonder the CDPP bolted. Charge struck out
One asked if he could change his statement !! and another was white with shock at the realization of the big lie.
And their chaperone Williams leant/knocked his head on the tailplane in dismay !!
Makes for top viewing.!
CAsA went to great and costly lengths to protect the perps, calling criminality just CAsA code breaches... a constructive fraud.
And the lies and bull**** continues ....watch this space.
I will have a VERY entertaining Episode 2 shortly.
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Such drama tonight - if the lass loses the second suction pump she "won't know her airspeed, altitude or direction".
I'm glad the 310 that I flew wasn't so complicated.
FFS, it's beyond cringeworthy.
I'm glad the 310 that I flew wasn't so complicated.
FFS, it's beyond cringeworthy.
I well remember the day when my flying instructor said i were ready to wear a six shooter.....
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Iron Bar yes...after this last CAsA induced episode, my old whiskers are somewhat overly sensitive.
But I'm sure everyone will enjoy the next story....and the outcome.
Well,..err.. maybe not everyone. !!
But I'm sure everyone will enjoy the next story....and the outcome.
Well,..err.. maybe not everyone. !!
Another great fun, entertaining episode at 9-30pm on TV Channel 73 (7Mate) tonight! Good photography, too.
(But far too much advertising for fast food and health and other insurance.)
I reckon that's there's far worse programmes to be seen on FTA TV?
(But far too much advertising for fast food and health and other insurance.)
I reckon that's there's far worse programmes to be seen on FTA TV?
Thread Starter
Question - the last time I looked at the regs on a specific topic, it was my understanding that a GoPro could only be attached to the exterior of an aircraft with an STC...has this rule changed? If so, can anyone point me in the direction of the regs that approves this..
On a serious note, top marks to the chopper pilot doing fire bombing in the Tiwi Islands. I thought that was the best bit of the entire series.
On a serious note, top marks to the chopper pilot doing fire bombing in the Tiwi Islands. I thought that was the best bit of the entire series.
Outnabout,
This AC from CASA describes the process to get an external camera approved.
https://www.casa.gov.au/file/152206/...token=SAKV46mV
It a bit of a hassle for an individual, but in the scheme of a whole program series a week's work for an AP and some test flights should sort out all the aircraft used.
This AC from CASA describes the process to get an external camera approved.
https://www.casa.gov.au/file/152206/...token=SAKV46mV
It a bit of a hassle for an individual, but in the scheme of a whole program series a week's work for an AP and some test flights should sort out all the aircraft used.
...Such drama tonight - if the lass loses the second suction pump she "won't know her airspeed, altitude or direction"...
...FFS, its beyond cringeworthy.
And then we end up with things like this:
"...CNN producer admitting the President Trump-Russia story was “mostly bulls**t” and hyped for “ratings.”..."
Gorka: O?Keefe CNN Video Fake News Scandal ?Complete Vindication for the President?
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You'd think if you knew your actions were on film you'd try and nail the centreline on landing 
Started watching but after the first 15 minutes decided to change channel to watch Midsomer Murders.
Started watching but after the first 15 minutes decided to change channel to watch Midsomer Murders.