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Old 25th Mar 2017, 08:05
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Old 25th Mar 2017, 21:57
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What would the charge out costs be?
I am no financier Band but if you were lucky enough to get 800 paid hours per year, $25.00 p/h would give you a 5% return on your 400K investment. If you then wrote them off to be half value in 4 years, add another $40.00 p/h. This assumes you had the $400K to stump up in the first place. Adding finance boggles my mind.

It suddenly makes a flying school using a couple of Jabby's a better sounding proposition.
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Old 25th Mar 2017, 22:47
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Aussie Bob, by the time you had finance, engineering costs, rent, wages, insurance, landing fees, plus 101 other fees, taxes and charges, manuals and at least ten safety vests, why would you want to run a flight school?

CASA need to drug test asap.
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Old 25th Mar 2017, 23:18
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I've often wondered how many billable hours per year a busy flying school puts on a C172 on average. Anyone out there in P prune world with knowledge in this area?
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Old 26th Mar 2017, 00:05
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The rule of thumb used to be that 600 hours per aircraft, per annum was about breakeven.
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Old 26th Mar 2017, 04:23
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For this I was thinking of having dry hire to a already established flying school simply to use less variable numbers.

Anyone with numbers of those rates and yes number of hours reasonable done a year.

(the idea is to see if a company owner could purchase 2 aircraft using one sparingly and depreciate both to a very low $ value and then selling the low time one to himself at the depreciated value say $50,000 - how long would that take)
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 04:31
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You'd be better off buying four M models, preferably with at least one with 180hp conversion, refurbish two, make shine for school, use the other for self and one for parts.
I owned and flew several through to the N model, flying school and charter. My first was a '65 F model. Those early ones were light and much better cross-wind landing especially with no wheel covers, they had no cuffed wing leading edge and a much smaller fin strake. Latrobe Valley Aero Club had M models for years and were still in service after twelve thousand hours or more. I'd pass the late '80s models, after the ten year production hiatus, they had 10 underwing fuel drains, what a pain.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 08:30
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More looking at ways to increase new aircraft production.
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