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Old 7th Mar 2017, 08:19
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VFR approach points on departure - YMMB

Peeps,

Think back to your training or if you are perhaps an instructor, what did you learn and or what are you teaching with regards to departures from an airport such as Moorabbin?

I've had the joy of working directly under an approach point for some time now and I am amazed to say the least at the number of aircraft using the approach point as their departure point at what appears to be the exact altitude of the incoming aircraft. I feel like I need to run for cover on multiple occasions when I look up at imminent collisions.

Are these locations represented highly in the near miss stats? Surely they must be!

Thoughts? What is the consensus - avoid at all costs? Fly out at a higher altitude perhaps than the 1,500 inbound?
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VFR approach points are to be avoided on departure.

But maybe I haven't been keeping up with the rules.
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
Peeps,

Think back to your training or if you are perhaps an instructor, what did you learn and or what are you teaching with regards to departures from an airport such as Moorabbin?

I've had the joy of working directly under an approach point for some time now and I am amazed to say the least at the number of aircraft using the approach point as their departure point at what appears to be the exact altitude of the incoming aircraft. I feel like I need to run for cover on multiple occasions when I look up at imminent collisions.

Are these locations represented highly in the near miss stats? Surely they must be!

Thoughts? What is the consensus - avoid at all costs? Fly out at a higher altitude perhaps than the 1,500 inbound?
Departure procedures for YMMB require climb to 2,000 ft or higher if cloud permits. See ERSA.
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Not sure about down there but YBAF has in/out points to the north. Not sure about other directions but the north is where the narrow transit path is.
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