Where is the Cobham/AMSA SAR Challenger 604???
Practice does make perfect and that is why the old operator conducted loads of land and marine drops for practice, I believe the new operator will be doing this training in the Sim (correct me if I am wrong someone).
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What successful drop
RSCU 660 dropped at lease 4 items to that yacht, nothing was retrieved, there were also 3 black Hawks and 1 c130 on task, such was the confidence in the jet doing something useful.
As for comments on the tender, the Cobham bid was 10 Mil per annum more expensive than the stated budget in the tender. If the actual budget was that high then no doubt we would have had a fleet of new aircraft, not second hand jets.
Does anyone want to take about the problems with sensors, integration and comms, including the bits of kit that have not been provided as promised such as VIDAR and cell locate. These teething problems are probably going to be solved, but at this stage implentation is 12 months behind schedule.
Turning up for a SAR is one thing, doing what you said you can do is another. A bit early for a pat on the back, you have a long path ahead of you Cobham.
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As for comments on the tender, the Cobham bid was 10 Mil per annum more expensive than the stated budget in the tender. If the actual budget was that high then no doubt we would have had a fleet of new aircraft, not second hand jets.
Does anyone want to take about the problems with sensors, integration and comms, including the bits of kit that have not been provided as promised such as VIDAR and cell locate. These teething problems are probably going to be solved, but at this stage implentation is 12 months behind schedule.
Turning up for a SAR is one thing, doing what you said you can do is another. A bit early for a pat on the back, you have a long path ahead of you Cobham.
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When the contract was first given to Aerorescue, was it on time, did it all kick off on day one? Were there any teething issues? If so, well done. If not - have the aerorescue guys forgotten this now?
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A Challenger 604 has just successfully co-ordinated an RAN rescue of some Saffies from their disabled yacht, 1300kms SW of the lower coast of Western Australia.
ABC News (Aust) - South African men rescued from stricken yacht Jedi 1 off W.A.
ABC News (Aust) - South African men rescued from stricken yacht Jedi 1 off W.A.
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The new standard of special mission ops in Australia
Well here we are, 9 months into the contract and a capability that is measured somewhere in the vicinity of less than 50 % contractually compliant. And this is now accepted as the new standard. The aircraft and equipment continues to fall short of Cobhams contracted claims. The crew, what there is of them are looking at their employment options. As a Surveillance/ SAR platform there are plenty of better jet options than the 604. Wake up government, the industry shakes it's head at your selection of company and aircraft.
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Well here we are, 9 months into the contract and a capability that is measured somewhere in the vicinity of less than 50 % contractually compliant. And this is now accepted as the new standard. The aircraft and equipment continues to fall short of Cobhams contracted claims. The crew, what there is of them are looking at their employment options. As a Surveillance/ SAR platform there are plenty of better jet options than the 604. Wake up government, the industry shakes it's head at your selection of company and aircraft.
Is Essendon online yet, I would assume they have full crews at all bases by now.
Get over it mate.. it's all in the past. Everyone else has moved on. When your feeling sad just watch that feel good YouTube video.
In many respects Cobham are doing a much better job. At the very least they have set up a sensible platform (for a nation such as this) from which they can only improve to provide a far superior service. They have already responded to not less than 6 events that were literally beyond the capability of the previous operation (and I'm not only referring to range).
I'm not negating how disappointing it all must have been for previous crew but that's life. My best advice (having been there before) is to move on. Onwards and upwards!
In many respects Cobham are doing a much better job. At the very least they have set up a sensible platform (for a nation such as this) from which they can only improve to provide a far superior service. They have already responded to not less than 6 events that were literally beyond the capability of the previous operation (and I'm not only referring to range).
I'm not negating how disappointing it all must have been for previous crew but that's life. My best advice (having been there before) is to move on. Onwards and upwards!
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Well, I watched it land yesterday in Perth on runway 24 and it wasn't on the ground until just after the C intersection. That, for those that don't know Perth, is a bit over half way down the runway and the runway is only 2163m long.
I was waiting for it to go spearing through the end onto the grass, but it didn't.
I was waiting for it to go spearing through the end onto the grass, but it didn't.
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Wasathangi! How dare you hijack this thread! This space is for disgruntled people who didn't get a job! Don't be coming in here trying to tell us that Cobham are competent or that the 604 is the right machine for the job! A fast intercontinental jet for maritime rescue response in a country like Australia! It doesn't make sense!!