Tony Windsor could be very powerful
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A pre-commitment to corruption, self gain, travel and expenses perks all about impossible to prove, as it is reported suburb to suburb on a study trip using postal allowance 3 years after the event.
Even when shafted in writing, so why not rent some late night entertainment?
Even when shafted in writing, so why not rent some late night entertainment?
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Good that you've made a point on corruption - they've all got their snouts in the trough. Question marks still hang over Shorten and his political staffer paid for by someone else plus his dodgy deals shortselling the working class, Gillard and her home renovations, Rudd and Rein with their business hitting it big about when he was chief of staff to Wayne Goss, Keating and his piggery, and what about Windsor making a killing selling his property at a price well above the odds.
I'll take it you agree with the other points I made about the carbon tax etc .
The inescapable fact is Windsor is the prime reason we had a second best government in the history of Australia. Windsor's reason for standing this time is because he's bitter and vindictive towards the LNP. He's got poor form - why elect him again?
Good that you've made a point on corruption - they've all got their snouts in the trough. Question marks still hang over Shorten and his political staffer paid for by someone else plus his dodgy deals shortselling the working class, Gillard and her home renovations, Rudd and Rein with their business hitting it big about when he was chief of staff to Wayne Goss, Keating and his piggery, and what about Windsor making a killing selling his property at a price well above the odds.
I'll take it you agree with the other points I made about the carbon tax etc .
The inescapable fact is Windsor is the prime reason we had a second best government in the history of Australia. Windsor's reason for standing this time is because he's bitter and vindictive towards the LNP. He's got poor form - why elect him again?
but most importantly, - after meetings with Tony Abbott, both Windsor and Oakshott realised Abbott wasn't fit to be Prime Minister - just a pity the Libs didn't get rid of him as leader prior to the last election.
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importantly, - after meetings with Tony Abbott, both Windsor and Oakshott realised Abbott wasn't fit to be Prime Minister - just a pity the Libs didn't get rid of him as leader prior to the last election.
importantly, - after meetings with Tony Abbott, both Windsor and Oakshott realised Abbott wasn't fit to be Prime Minister - just a pity the Libs didn't get rid of him as leader prior to the last election.
I'd reckon the only thing on the corrupt tony windSore mind when deciding which party to support was which one would allow him to financially profit the most from. Tony Abbott was saying the global warming hysteria were all crap. No money to be made from the global warming scam if it got shut down.
I see windSore is now pushing the corruption that is wind power. Lotsa money to be made there by some...
...as for oakShot..
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Perhaps you could expand on that statement. I'm curious what rampant might mean. Is it almost all unionists in Australia ie about 6.4 % of the population or is it less than 1% of unionists ie 0.064% of the population. Perhaps a better way to explain what you mean is to compare them with banks and which group steals the most money from Australian citizens and which group most needs a Royal Commission to set them on the straight and narrow. I await your answer with interest. ( why did that word come to mind the moment I thought banks)
PS If theft by unions is corruption what is theft by banks?
rampant Union corruption,
PS If theft by unions is corruption what is theft by banks?
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Tony windSore is pushing the wind power scam. Lets see how its doing for Germany...
"...According to a recent analysis, writes Zschäpitz, “Consumers are now paying more for their power than ever before” — some 30.27 euro cents per kilowatt hour. Families today are paying 21% more for electricity than they did 5 years ago.
So what is driving the rapid upward price spiral?
Zschäpitz reports that it’s due mostly to the “Energiewende” – Germany’s push away from nuclear and fossil generated power to renewables such as wind, solar and biogas. Also driving the price are the energy price breaks that are granted to big power consumers, and liability costs for offshore wind parks. Moreover Zschäpitz reports that consumers are also forced to pick up the tab for upgrading the power grid so that it is able to handle the wildly fluctuating power supply from wind and sun..."
In other words, 'green' power is destroying the German economy and impoverishing the people. Although, the bankers and certain select politicians are profiting very nicely..
If he gets the chance, that is the tony windSore future for Australia.
Up! Up! And Away! Leading Daily Die Welt Reports: ?Electricity In Germany More Expensive Than Ever?
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"...According to a recent analysis, writes Zschäpitz, “Consumers are now paying more for their power than ever before” — some 30.27 euro cents per kilowatt hour. Families today are paying 21% more for electricity than they did 5 years ago.
So what is driving the rapid upward price spiral?
Zschäpitz reports that it’s due mostly to the “Energiewende” – Germany’s push away from nuclear and fossil generated power to renewables such as wind, solar and biogas. Also driving the price are the energy price breaks that are granted to big power consumers, and liability costs for offshore wind parks. Moreover Zschäpitz reports that consumers are also forced to pick up the tab for upgrading the power grid so that it is able to handle the wildly fluctuating power supply from wind and sun..."
In other words, 'green' power is destroying the German economy and impoverishing the people. Although, the bankers and certain select politicians are profiting very nicely..
If he gets the chance, that is the tony windSore future for Australia.
Up! Up! And Away! Leading Daily Die Welt Reports: ?Electricity In Germany More Expensive Than Ever?
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Flying Binghi,
Are you a lawyer, AOPA director and Nationals Party member by any chance?
Are you a lawyer, AOPA director and Nationals Party member by any chance?
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Flying Binghi,
Are you a lawyer, AOPA director and Nationals Party member by any chance?
Flying Binghi,
Are you a lawyer, AOPA director and Nationals Party member by any chance?
Not a lawyer, nor an AOPA member. I have never been a member of the Lib/Nat partys or any other political party's for that matter. Although, as i've mentioned before on pprune. I was a card carrying member of the Wilderness Society. Thats the political agitator front for bob brown and the unions.
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Stuck a Nine kilowatt solar electricity system on the roof. I buy for 38 cents KWH and I sell for 8 cents a KWH. Bill has gone from $1200 per 100 days to $600. As soon as the battery technology is a little more mature, then in one will go. To hell with AGL!
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Stuck a Nine kilowatt solar electricity system on the roof. I buy for 38 cents KWH and I sell for 8 cents a KWH. Bill has gone from $1200 per 100 days to $600. As soon as the battery technology is a little more mature, then in one will go. To hell with AGL!
Stuck a Nine kilowatt solar electricity system on the roof. I buy for 38 cents KWH and I sell for 8 cents a KWH. Bill has gone from $1200 per 100 days to $600. As soon as the battery technology is a little more mature, then in one will go. To hell with AGL!
And how many billions of dollars of taxpayer dollars have been wasted so far on solar, wind and sundry other green 'power' scams. Thats billions of dollars added to our escalating national debt. And the only ones that will be paying off the national debt are taxpayers.
And Sunfish, if your not a parasite living of the public purse, thanks to green 'power', that is extra tax that you (and your children if yer got em) will be paying. A lot more then $600 a year I'd imagine..
Considering Australia is self sufficiant in coal and uranium and could easily do coal to fuel it is idiotic in the extreme not to use it.
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And Sunfish, if your not a parasite living of the public purse, thanks to green 'power', that is extra tax that you (and your children if yer got em) will be paying.
Was your family involved in asbestos mining by any chance?
Flying B, nobody is "subsidising" my power consumption. Your logic is akin to alleging my healthcare costs are being subsidised by my refusal to smoke cigarettes and thus pay excise on tobacco.
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Just had a random thought while reading a few threads. What is the chance anything aviation will be given even a glimpse of daylight during the election period and for the 3 years that follow?
None.
Excluding QF/VA and the subsidiaries.
How many pilots are there?
How many LAME's?
How many other participants actively engaged in GA Charter/GA PVT-Bus, GA PVT, RAA?
I am on a board of another national association, which has similar displeasure with government (at state levels) and it resembles dealing with aviation groups/CASA rather remarkably. I have a fair idea of the political pull the industry participants have.
If I said that industry only just gets "some traction" today, having effectively wiped out the National Party in the period of 1997-2005, with effectively 10-15 times the participants who have much bigger grievances, what hope do we in GA think we have of having any political pull.
The answer is simple. It is none.
Unless you can be a disruptive force (like uber to taxi's) in the political scene, and hold key but marginal seats to account, then all the ranting, all the public rallies with 20-40 people turning up, will do nothing.
The writing below comes from a very astute political chap, and sure it is reflecting on a separate industry, which has and applied political clout. The fact is the "regulator/s" have just gone about making things worse, despite what the media have been feeding you lately. The same applies for aviation, except that we have 1/15th the numbers.
None.
Excluding QF/VA and the subsidiaries.
How many pilots are there?
How many LAME's?
How many other participants actively engaged in GA Charter/GA PVT-Bus, GA PVT, RAA?
I am on a board of another national association, which has similar displeasure with government (at state levels) and it resembles dealing with aviation groups/CASA rather remarkably. I have a fair idea of the political pull the industry participants have.
If I said that industry only just gets "some traction" today, having effectively wiped out the National Party in the period of 1997-2005, with effectively 10-15 times the participants who have much bigger grievances, what hope do we in GA think we have of having any political pull.
The answer is simple. It is none.
Unless you can be a disruptive force (like uber to taxi's) in the political scene, and hold key but marginal seats to account, then all the ranting, all the public rallies with 20-40 people turning up, will do nothing.
The writing below comes from a very astute political chap, and sure it is reflecting on a separate industry, which has and applied political clout. The fact is the "regulator/s" have just gone about making things worse, despite what the media have been feeding you lately. The same applies for aviation, except that we have 1/15th the numbers.
To quote John Howard in 1996, “If people don’t agree with these measures, they can show their displeasure at the ballot box”.
So, Australians did!
In 1996, all States and Territories had Liberal governments, except NSW (Labor) and Queensland, Nationals. At each subsequent election, those Liberal governments were roundly defeated, with Labor in NSW increasing its majority. The Nationals (Queensland) not only lost government after decades in power, they even lost political party status and were forced to merge with Liberals to become LNP.
Ex-Police Minister Russell Cooper, when interviewed on ABC radio (transcript available) said “Howards gun laws wiped the Nationals out in Qld. We should have fought stronger against them”.
In Victoria, Jeff Kennett went from a healthy majority, to losing power in what was called the “belting from the bush”, as several Independents took seats from Nationals and supported Bracks, to give Labor the government.
In NSW the Liberals were thrown into chaos, with many of their branches actually closing. The sight of then opposition leader Kerry Chikarovski marching side by side with The Greens’ Lee Rhiannon was too much for many Liberal party members and voters to stomach. She was soon replaced as Libs leader, to be followed by a multitude of leaders, none of whom had the courage to criticize Howard for his foolish gun laws. They remained out of office until O’Farrell won government in 2011.
Howard’s federal government actually lost one million votes in the next (1999) election and only just managed to cling to power because of the large majority he held after the 1996 election.
When John Howard was eventually voted out and lost his own seat, the highest office held by a Liberal Party representative, was Campbell Newman, as Lord Mayor of Brisbane!!!
Make of that what you will.
So, Australians did!
In 1996, all States and Territories had Liberal governments, except NSW (Labor) and Queensland, Nationals. At each subsequent election, those Liberal governments were roundly defeated, with Labor in NSW increasing its majority. The Nationals (Queensland) not only lost government after decades in power, they even lost political party status and were forced to merge with Liberals to become LNP.
Ex-Police Minister Russell Cooper, when interviewed on ABC radio (transcript available) said “Howards gun laws wiped the Nationals out in Qld. We should have fought stronger against them”.
In Victoria, Jeff Kennett went from a healthy majority, to losing power in what was called the “belting from the bush”, as several Independents took seats from Nationals and supported Bracks, to give Labor the government.
In NSW the Liberals were thrown into chaos, with many of their branches actually closing. The sight of then opposition leader Kerry Chikarovski marching side by side with The Greens’ Lee Rhiannon was too much for many Liberal party members and voters to stomach. She was soon replaced as Libs leader, to be followed by a multitude of leaders, none of whom had the courage to criticize Howard for his foolish gun laws. They remained out of office until O’Farrell won government in 2011.
Howard’s federal government actually lost one million votes in the next (1999) election and only just managed to cling to power because of the large majority he held after the 1996 election.
When John Howard was eventually voted out and lost his own seat, the highest office held by a Liberal Party representative, was Campbell Newman, as Lord Mayor of Brisbane!!!
Make of that what you will.
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Jabba there is a small difference between guns and GA.
85% of people support the gun laws or at least are not against them so it would take a brave gov to change them.
95% of people if told GA was being screwed would ask "WTF is GA?" so pollies feel pretty safe doing nothing.
85% of people support the gun laws or at least are not against them so it would take a brave gov to change them.
95% of people if told GA was being screwed would ask "WTF is GA?" so pollies feel pretty safe doing nothing.
Where's poster Dick Smith in all this? Perhaps our windSore wind-power backing Mr Smith if afraid to post under his own call sign because he will get a hiding over his lack of knowledge of the global warming issue..
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