QF schedule Vietnam war
I don't know if the address is current but you might try this:
[email protected]
And here is a link to a bit of history:
VH-JET#1 & Her Sisters - Skippy Squadron
[email protected]
And here is a link to a bit of history:
VH-JET#1 & Her Sisters - Skippy Squadron
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The best that I can do is a Manila - Sydney sector on the B707-338 which was 9 hours 30 minutes.
Also a Saigon - Sydney sector on VH - EBP (B707 - 338) on 4th March, 1970 which was 10 hours 03 minutes.
I have passed the word around so someone might be able to come up with those specific sectors.
Regards, Norman Wells
Also a Saigon - Sydney sector on VH - EBP (B707 - 338) on 4th March, 1970 which was 10 hours 03 minutes.
I have passed the word around so someone might be able to come up with those specific sectors.
Regards, Norman Wells
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First flight into Saigon with some troops we had a line of US helos firing into the ground on the approach to keep the baddies heads down. On departure in Briefing somone knocked a chair over and the next moment we are talking to ourselves. They were all under tables and desks.
I wasn't entirely convinced we were winning.
I wasn't entirely convinced we were winning.
Which way did Qantas fly the 707 from MNL to SYD? If direct it wouldn't have been 9:30 mins. We can do that in the slow bus in about 7:00
Did they go around Indo?
Ahh just read the Indo's wouldn't let QF overfly with soldiers and weapons on board, they must have gone a long way around!!
Did they go around Indo?
Ahh just read the Indo's wouldn't let QF overfly with soldiers and weapons on board, they must have gone a long way around!!
I wasn't entirely convinced we were winning.
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We lost, as a matter of fact we got our butts kicked.
But then again, we were an invading force on a peaceable population.
I'd suggest you do some reading on the Vietnam conflict. While you're at it, suggest you also read up on Insurgency and Counter-Insurgency.
Some would say we learned nothing either.
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Aussie Bob, best you get and read a copy of "Unheralded Victory - Who Won the Vietnam War?" Probably the first war won by one side having a better propaganda machine than the other.
The only apology I will field is that I meant no offense to the blokes who fought there, nor did I mean to denigrate their bravery, nor their gains in battle. Back to QANTAS and their crews and sorry for the thread creep.
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Erm...
Aussie Bob
While I'm sure that we all appreciate your apology, I'm confused as to why you offered it as there was nothing you said earlier that warranted it.
MY objection was that you were commenting on a conflict about which you appear to know very little.
DIVOSH!
P.S. We had David Sabben as a guest speaker at one of our functions last year. Very interesting insights into the battle.
While I'm sure that we all appreciate your apology, I'm confused as to why you offered it as there was nothing you said earlier that warranted it.
MY objection was that you were commenting on a conflict about which you appear to know very little.
DIVOSH!
P.S. We had David Sabben as a guest speaker at one of our functions last year. Very interesting insights into the battle.
Di Vosh, The apology I offered was to our Vietnam Vets in case they took offense. I meant none.
Our views of history are shaped by the books we read, the movies and TV we watch and the people we meet. Mine are different than yours however I still respect yours. Some (a very small part) of my views were influenced by visiting "The Museum of American War Crimes" in Ho Chi Minh City.
You may call it a counter insurgency, I call it an invasion and a bloody tragedy. I believe Neil Davis felt the same.
BTW, my grandfather was a decorated WW1 veteran of Gallipoli and then The Western Front and my late father served in WW2. I am now custodian of both of their medals. (for Flyboat north)
Megan, I guess if we dropped even more bombs and spread even more chemical the result may have been different?
Our views of history are shaped by the books we read, the movies and TV we watch and the people we meet. Mine are different than yours however I still respect yours. Some (a very small part) of my views were influenced by visiting "The Museum of American War Crimes" in Ho Chi Minh City.
You may call it a counter insurgency, I call it an invasion and a bloody tragedy. I believe Neil Davis felt the same.
BTW, my grandfather was a decorated WW1 veteran of Gallipoli and then The Western Front and my late father served in WW2. I am now custodian of both of their medals. (for Flyboat north)
Megan, I guess if we dropped even more bombs and spread even more chemical the result may have been different?
[QUOTE]Our views of history are shaped by the books we read, the movies and TV we watch and the people we meet. [/QUOTE
Aussie Bob, some of us utilise our experiences to formulate our views.
Have you even been spat on?
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Aussie Bob, some of us utilise our experiences to formulate our views.
Have you even been spat on?
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I guess if we dropped even more bombs and spread even more chemical the result may have been different
Some (a very small part) of my views were influenced by visiting "The Museum of American War Crimes" in Ho Chi Minh City
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For our efforts acting as crew we were awarded the Vietnam Transport medal. Qantas also filled overhead lockers with beer -a great morale booster. At the time we were not allowed to tell anyone we were doing these trips. This included, in theory , family and friends.
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Aussie bob,
Don't worry, you are definitely not the only one thinking that way.
My suggestion would be to drop the discussion.. No point in debating with people who hold the true secrets of the universe. Close to any other point of view.
See ya!
Don't worry, you are definitely not the only one thinking that way.
My suggestion would be to drop the discussion.. No point in debating with people who hold the true secrets of the universe. Close to any other point of view.
See ya!