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"which makes it hard if you don't have valid up to date manuals"
Everyone CAR 30, Part 145, a LAME or a Pilot need up to date manuals "on hand at time of maintenance".
Everyone CAR 30, Part 145, a LAME or a Pilot need up to date manuals "on hand at time of maintenance".
What may yet put the cat among the pigeons is Part 135 which is supposed to do away with the distinction between low-capacity RPT and charter.
It won't be the Part 145 maintenance that CASR Part 135 will require, that will put small "charter" operators out of business, it will be Part 135 itself.
If you bother to acquaint yourself with the detail, the minimum aerodrome standards, alone, will eliminate a large proportion of the operations conducted by light singles and twins.
Not to mention the requirements for valid forecasts and NOTAMs.
Again a whole new bunch of restrictions, with accompanying STRICT LIABILITY criminal offenses, characterized by a complete CASA refusal to demonstrate the risk, which is alleged is mitigated by the regulation, let alone cost/benefit justify the regulations, as ( I get tired of saying ) required by long standing Government policy, not to mention Red Tape Reduction programs, OBPR etc.
All to "harmonise" with what CASA imagine EASA "rules" would be like, if EASA has "rules" for GA public transport. And "CASA" have a very vivid imagination, like most producers of the "Horror" genre.
The whole GA sector has been asleep as this has happened. Will you be able to hear the screams of $$$ pain in Canberra, when this hits the law books??
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Everyone CAR 30, Part 145, a LAME or a Pilot need up to date manuals "on hand at time of maintenance".
You think some GA dude with his Cessna 172 cares about manuals.He wants to have the cheapest job possible. I am sure he would be the first guy to sue you if something went wrong. That is why I am happy to be away from GA and private owners. The liability is too great.
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I still use Aventex data and at Zero ($0) cost still have current Cessna data from 100- 400 series.
It is as per Cessna and CASA requirements, and a small admin printing cost is required.
Aventext stoped aviation manuals years ago! and I passed CASA months ago.
I use Aventext as it is usable unlike many others, that means people actually use it!
It is as per Cessna and CASA requirements, and a small admin printing cost is required.
Aventext stoped aviation manuals years ago! and I passed CASA months ago.
I use Aventext as it is usable unlike many others, that means people actually use it!
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Avantext is great, your auditor must have been a bit green to let it slide though if you can't show currency on tech data.
ATP has made it unaffordable, not to mention their latest move to live cloud access, what happens when we are out whoop whoop doing an engine change with no internet access or power?
ATP has made it unaffordable, not to mention their latest move to live cloud access, what happens when we are out whoop whoop doing an engine change with no internet access or power?
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ATP Navigator , Cessview and IMLviewer were hopeless. Days of wasted time trying to access manuals. Most of ours are web based or on our own remote . Great until internet gives up. Then we are all scratching around for data. Big frustration in the shop for us and owners
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Leadie, from the horses mouth. Part 135 has gone back to the drawing board. It might turn up in its original form but it could also be totally rewritten. I could not get any idea out of the project leaders as to where it was going, only that it was being reconsidered.
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A bit green? No I just showed them what Cessna and Aventext say in relation to amendments, and I do that. Cessna supply all amendments for free, and it is in my approved procedures manual.
You only need current data, not current subscription.
You only need current data, not current subscription.
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Example - Cessna 182 (1969 - 1976) Maintenance Manual P/N D2006R4-13.
This manual was last updated in full on 1 March 2004. 3 temporary revisions have been issued since #4,5&6 in 2008, 2011 and 2012.
" Filing Instructions for this Temporary Revision"
"1. For paper publications ******
2. For Aerofiche publications ********
3. For CD publications, mark the temporary revision part number on the CD label with red marker. This will be a visual identifier that the temporary revision must be referenced when the content of the CD is being used. Temporary revisions should be collected and maintained in a notebook or binder near the CD library for quick reference."
Now it appears ATP make me buy the 100 series for $5,865US ($7,777AUD) and a yearly renewal of $4650 ($6,100). Now my little 182 only does 70 hrs a year and I charge a fixed rate 100hly @ $2,400, and only look after one of them.
Apart from the fact most my staff struggle with ATP and others, Aventext is user friendly. Yes I have a few extra folders on the computer desk now, but a small price to pay. (on type that only see every 3 or 4 years I print reduced at 9 pages to 1 can only be read with magnifier but keeps it legal and can be read on Cessna site when needed).
So the CASA AWI was certainly not green just well informed by the time they left. I was told I needed to check Cessna for revisions monthly (even thuo Cessna send me a email for all revisions)- still a small price to pay and better than $65,000 over 10 years just for 100 series aircraft.
This manual was last updated in full on 1 March 2004. 3 temporary revisions have been issued since #4,5&6 in 2008, 2011 and 2012.
" Filing Instructions for this Temporary Revision"
"1. For paper publications ******
2. For Aerofiche publications ********
3. For CD publications, mark the temporary revision part number on the CD label with red marker. This will be a visual identifier that the temporary revision must be referenced when the content of the CD is being used. Temporary revisions should be collected and maintained in a notebook or binder near the CD library for quick reference."
Now it appears ATP make me buy the 100 series for $5,865US ($7,777AUD) and a yearly renewal of $4650 ($6,100). Now my little 182 only does 70 hrs a year and I charge a fixed rate 100hly @ $2,400, and only look after one of them.
Apart from the fact most my staff struggle with ATP and others, Aventext is user friendly. Yes I have a few extra folders on the computer desk now, but a small price to pay. (on type that only see every 3 or 4 years I print reduced at 9 pages to 1 can only be read with magnifier but keeps it legal and can be read on Cessna site when needed).
So the CASA AWI was certainly not green just well informed by the time they left. I was told I needed to check Cessna for revisions monthly (even thuo Cessna send me a email for all revisions)- still a small price to pay and better than $65,000 over 10 years just for 100 series aircraft.
Last edited by Band a Lot; 9th Apr 2016 at 02:56.
Part 135 has gone back to the drawing board.
The story I get is that Parts 91/121/133/135/138 are "on hold" but Skidmore has been quite blunt in saying that there will only be minor amendment.
Apparently, the completely idiot Part 132 is going ahead, allegedly AWAL are anxious to hoist all their own members on their own petards.
According to AWAL, all their members are clamoring for prescriptive and restrictive regulation with lots more strict liability offenses. All in the interests of air safety, you understand, and nothing to do with the (unrealistically) expected boost in AWAL cash flow.
The first SCC for 2016 is first week in May, we will see.
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Dear GA145, you seem to be quiet, to get 145 you need to know rules. I know them and explained a bit.
Can you please explain "green" as I find it offensive and clearly state it is perfectly correct in detail.
Leave no stone unturned! why you say green?
P.S. a lappy with Aventext and a small file is valid 30 days from my memory. (90 if Piper) engine whoop whoop no problem.
Can you please explain "green" as I find it offensive and clearly state it is perfectly correct in detail.
Leave no stone unturned! why you say green?
P.S. a lappy with Aventext and a small file is valid 30 days from my memory. (90 if Piper) engine whoop whoop no problem.
