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Old 26th Sep 2016, 15:46
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop
Form 61-RTX has no requirement for any IF for an RPL conversion from RPC.. Nor does the RPL application form 61-1RA.

However 2 hours dual IF, 1 hour in flight are required for the cross country endorsement for an RPC holder to fly GA.

Under 141.305 a pilot training under Part 141 has to have 2 hours dual IF of which 1 hour in fight before they can go area solo. Even though this isn't included in the CASA sample RPL planning matrix which only has IF training after area solo and then only 1.4 hours total for the RPL.

So you can hold a Part 61 licence without training under or complying with part 141.
Clare Prop,

I think you misread 141.305.

141.305(3)(c) requires the IF before a cross country solo or night solo; area solos do not require IF.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 13:00
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That was how I read it, yet here is the assessor worksheet, see ref 171 and 172 of the assessment worksheet....https://www.casa.gov.au/files/part141-sheetxlsm
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 14:40
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
Unless part 61 specifies that the instrument time must be completed in a GA registered aircraft, then yes, you can do the instrument time in RA-Aus. It's simulated anyway and not in cloud, so ok for RA-Aus, unless your school is onthe e that goes under IFR for the practice 2 hours of instrument work.

In reality, there's no harm to be done by heading back from the training area in RA-Aus under the hood - it's good practice regardless of aircraft type and registration.

Of course, there is an assumption here that the aircraft if appropriately equipped, as many are these days.
You cannot log simulated IF time completed in an RAAus registered aeroplane. Simulated IF for the issue of a licence must be conducted under a Part 141/142 organisation by an appropriately rated flying instructor. Although there might be value in providing RAAus trainees with enough exposure to simulated IF to help them understand they should avoid IMC, they cannot log the time as IF.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 14:51
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop
That was how I read it, yet here is the assessor worksheet, see ref 171 and 172 of the assessment worksheet....https://www.casa.gov.au/files/part141-sheetxlsm
Maybe review 61.1225, paras (4) and (5). The 2 hours IF is limited to solo cross country and night flight.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 15:37
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Thanks guys. Seems to be an error in the technical assessors worksheet, it certainly doesn't seem to match the references... I'm waiting on clarification from CASA as they said to use that worksheet for guidance for the 141 manual....
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop
Thanks guys. Seems to be an error in the technical assessors worksheet, it certainly doesn't seem to match the references... I'm waiting on clarification from CASA as they said to use that worksheet for guidance for the 141 manual....
There are CASA staff who can't move on from the old reg's, either from resistance to change or not referencing the new reg's for whatever reason. You'll find there are additional "rules" only found on administrative forms. ie min hours / experience requirements or exams not mentioned in the reg's or MOS.
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Also, I found BIF was a bit too easy. It wasn't until i was flying in IMC and trying to set up the 430 for a diversion due to carby ice that I truly understood the value of a good scan.

Doing the BIF might suggest to people that this iFR stuff isn't that hard, especially with the huge glass cockpits some aircrcaft have these days.
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