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Old 26th Feb 2016, 07:18
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Surely that letter has been doctored - if not, it is an absolute disgrace.
Yeah I know, you really couldn't make this stuff up!

But unfortunately it's all too true
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Old 26th Feb 2016, 07:29
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Smile

The writer is deluded. But it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
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Old 26th Feb 2016, 08:17
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Must admit, that letter is very unusual for corporate communications, "too much internal information" makes it a very negative correspondence.

It definitely was drafted by a complete f@#king moron - they do exist in all walks of life.

Glad it was posted here, you can sense standards improving if the author of said letter is given his/her marching orders.
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Old 26th Feb 2016, 08:27
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Originally Posted by NOSIGN
Surely that letter has been doctored - if not, it is an absolute disgrace.

When I read it, I thought the wording smacked of something from Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore from back when I had dealings with it.
Then I saw the last line of Ixixly's post (#17) and the penny dropped.
There are obviously still some devout disciples of Mr Lee still about.

So no, NOSIGN, I don't think it was doctored.
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Old 26th Feb 2016, 12:00
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Hmm, thanks Square Bear.
That link is just management, though.
I have a sneaking suspicion that a certain xxx may know something about that letter.
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Old 27th Feb 2016, 12:27
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How much does the "privilege of this life-changing opportunity" cost a cadet?
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Old 27th Feb 2016, 14:11
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Towering Q, I believe their Contract states something about their First Born Child being required to sign up for a Cadetship as well...but for only half the pay that Cadets currently receive of course! Gotta drive those costs down!

Nothing like selling your soul to the devil ey?
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Old 27th Feb 2016, 18:34
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This is not just a matter for the unions, this is a direct threat to the safety of passengers. Rex has just declared it is unsafe and CASA should at the very least require the removal of the Chief Operating Officer and the repudiation of this letter by the Board. If this does not happen, then sell your Rex shares now because disaster is not far away. Incidentally, no person in their right mind would or should want to work for this company while this pest is COO.

Why? You already saw the crucifixion of Dominic James (flying for a Rex subsidiary) over a safety related matter that was the result of a very nasty chain of circumstances, including failures by his employer.

"fiercely loyal and company minded and going way above the call of duty especially in time of need for the company"

This is a direct and unabashed call by the chief operating officer to put the interests of the company ahead of the safety interests of the paying passengers as laid out by the legislation and regulations.

To put that another way, requesting unscheduled maintenance ( for example a tire change), requesting extra fuel or any safety related action that costs the company money, for example a diversion due to weather or perhaps grounding oneself due to illness, is now forbidden under threat of career truncation.

To put that yet another way, the COO has stated that loyalty to the company takes precedence over everything else and threatens retaliation against anyone who acts differently in his opinion, that by definition includes the law and regulations. This is the moral and ethical dilemma for all Rex staff, not just pilots, of "the double bind" on steroids. What a ****ty unsafe organisation.

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Old 27th Feb 2016, 22:15
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Agree with all... this letter should be posted on noticeboards far and wide as a prime example of the "race to the bottom". Disgusting.
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Old 27th Feb 2016, 22:17
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Despite all that there will still be young hopefuls signing the letter and wanting a start in a turboprop so that they can "escape GA". The sad part is the GA they thought they were escaping no longer exists and the only glamour and lifestyle of the airline industry they think they will be a part of is consigned to the memories of the over 50's.

Sunny if CASA didn't do anything about Pelair then they are certainly not going to do anything about Rex on the basis of one poorly written internal letter. You have stated numerous times that CASA has very little interest in safety.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 01:52
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Sunfish,

I believe we share the same thoughts regarding the tone of the letter and the implications of driving down conditions further in the industry. However, your hyperbole regarding safety is not reflected in what is written. The COO has not said to "put the interests of the company ahead of the safety interests of the paying passengers" and "requesting unscheduled maintenance (for example a tire change), requesting extra fuel or any safety related action that costs the company money, for example a diversion due to weather or perhaps grounding oneself due to illness, is now forbidden under threat of career truncation" is just your take on the matter and is no way implied or suggested in his letter.

"fiercely loyal and company minded and going way above the call of duty especially in time of need for the company" to me could mean keeping my mouth closed and not moaning down the pub/on Pprune about the crap pay and working conditions, getting direct routings from ATC to save fuel, helping Granny Gumdrops on board with her bags when the cabin crew are busy and, in this particular instance (which I wouldn't, by the way) accepting sub-standard accommodation for rest. I'm sure there are a myriad of other examples where one is able to comply with the COO's demands and yet not compromise safety.

I am in no way trying to justify nor agree with either the literal or implied contents of the letter but I think your interpretation of the implications for safety are exaggerated and not reflected in what is written.



No, never flown for them (or any other Australian operator for that matter) but have been a very active pilot union representative in the past and am used to the drivel from Management.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 02:00
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So the standard of accommodation has no impact on the quality of rest, and the quality of rest has no impact on safety.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 02:27
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So the standard of accommodation has no impact on the quality of rest, and the quality of rest has no impact on safety.
In this instance, probably not. PelAir pilots stay there just fine.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 03:21
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With respect Pontius, the COO expects pilots to make duty to the company the highest priority. That is what the letter implies - to always make decisions in the interest of the company first and foremost. Not the passengers and not the profession.

This sets up an impressionable and inexperienced cadet for the double bind dilemma of which I am sure you are aware.

Now add in some maintenance issues (perhaps caused by engineers being placed under the same pressure) some bad weather and we have set up young Bloggs for a major accident due to........company pressure.

P.S I liked the bit about a pilots word being their bond. In 2016 and considering management behaviour these days, that is a little quaint.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 03:31
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So the standard of accommodation has no impact on the quality of rest, and the quality of rest has no impact on safety.
Of course it does, Leady, and I never suggested otherwise. It is the only safety-related aspect that can be argued to be relevant to the letter, whereas Sunfish's supposition that the COO's letter has ruled Company loyalty over safety and "takes precedence over everything else" is not supported by anything that is written.

By all means take a COO to task and I would be at the front of the queue when arguing against a direct call to overrule safety for the sake of Company loyalty but I'd be damned sure that was what was actually said and, in this case, it wasn't and certainly did not constitute "a direct and unabashed call by the chief operating officer to put the interests of the company ahead of the safety interests of the paying passengers as laid out by the legislation and regulations."
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 03:46
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the COO expects pilots to make duty to the company the highest priority. That is what the letter implies - to always make decisions in the interest of the company first and foremost. Not the passengers and not the profession.
Sunfish,

As I said previously, I agree with your interpretation of the tone of the letter and the possible implications thereof. However, I do not agree that he has told, or even suggested, that safety takes second place to Company loyalty. Surely, in placing safety at the very highest level one is directly supporting the company. It could even be argued that being 'fiercely loyal' means putting the Company interests first by ensuring business is conducted as safely as possible, after all it's no good being loyal to a company that's gone out of business because of a preventable accident.

Believe me, I'm no Management stooge and have come perilously close to being slung out on my arse for my vehemence in some of the meetings I've attended. Likewise, I've become quite adept at reading Management edicts but I'm at a loss to draw the same conclusions as you've drawn from this particular letter.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 04:41
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If it's insufficiently "loyal" to use the accommodation to which a pilot is entitled, prior to simulator checks, just imagine the pressure on the pilot when the cost to the company of a decision made by the pilot may be many times more than the $100.

I would have thought that simulator checks have safety implications - otherwise, why have them. Perhaps the company considers that not being sufficiently rested before simulator checks is entirely the pilot's risk? Not much loyalty being shown by the company to the pilot, in that case.
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We can't expect junior people in our industry to interpret this letter in a way that does not effect safety. Just because a senior person ( COO or crusty old pilot) might naturally read this and infer that safety comes first, a junior cadet has yet to learn what safety is made up of and might not get the balance right. These cadets will be our Captains in the blink of an eye. Our senior CASA approved people need to be ensuring an environment where our safety critical people can learn their trade without threats, not sending messages like this. It's the Australian public who will pay the price for allowing cultures like this to exist in our Airlines. CASA is the watchdog who ultimately says " Carry on" or " Nah mate, not good enough for this country" .
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 07:08
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Now I have read it again, this letter is pure psychopath stuff. It uses some of the most commonly employed techniques one might use to get the weaker minded individuals in our society to strongly align themselves with the "leadership".

"We consider this a very special honour as it means you have been assessed to have among the best technical/academic aptitudes amid the thousands of applications we have on record"

Lets break that opening salvo down:

"Very special honour"- You are indeed privileged, we the company bestow greatness upon you, don't let us down.

"You have been assessed"- We have poured over your application, we have invested ourselves in you and your academia, we consider you (yes you) important to the future of this company, we are taking you seriously.

"Among the best technical/academic aptitudes"- Only the best of the best need apply here, and you fit the bill, you have the right stuff!

"Thousands of applications we have on record"- Introduces a sense of urgency, you must not dally about here, we have been very busy assessing all those other possible high achievers. Who knows who might get your spot? It also insinuates that we are a very popular place to work, very exclusive.

Just the opening sentences, and it is riddled with some extraordinary connotations. Who wouldn't want to apply here? That's the first filter, anyone who is still interested will now be softened up with several more paragraphs of very suggestive words and phrases. Life changing, commit, company minded (note the Capital in Company), fiercely loyal etc.....

"Above and beyond the call of duty"- We will rely on you as we do any other hero. Filling you with pride.

"Especially in time of need for the Company"- We may be in for a struggle at some point for which we will need good, solid men and women. Lays out the mission and hints at the soft underbelly which you will be helping to protect.

"We have encountered many Cadets in the past who promised us the Earth in order to be selected"- Would you do this?

"But once selected they very quickly show their true colours"- Now let's start weeding out the pretenders from the players. Are you really that soft, that weak as to be duplicitous in our time of need?

The list goes on and on. I could go all day, but by the end of this letter, the reader has been put on a pedestal multiple times, given the mission, given the impending doom story and finally threatened with a stunted career if you subsequently slip into lucidity and have yourself an independent thought.

Some question the safety aspect of this letter, but all I see in this letter is call to arms for the purely aspirational; those who want to belong and feel wanted. Easily impressionable young men and women who will do anything to fly a turboprop, launch their airline career and go on to aviation's' higher echelons. And it is very cleverly done without once explicitly stating what will be expected of you once you join the ranks of the privileged.

So the threats you ask? Traditionally airline pilots were expected to be critical thinkers, people motivated by getting it right even if it meant doing something unpopular. This letter surreptitiously filters out those who would do that by bestowing an air of importance on those who would modify their decisions based on company wishes, a hint of job security and career progression. If that doesn't represent a significant risk to safety given of the impressionable minds it is aimed at, then nothing does.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 07:48
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Well analysed, Blitzkrieger.

I showed that letter to my sister who has serious qualifications in industrial psychology.
She couldn't stop giggling and took a copy to share with her colleagues.

In my case, it reminds me very much of the kind of thing that one would find in a briefing folder given to 'specially selected'
teen-age applicants for the position of door-to-door encyclopaedia salesman back in the late sixties.

No doubt, Neville Howell is being supported and counselled by his loving wife for having been dumb enough to be pressured into
putting his moniker on that masterpiece penned by one of "xxx's" anointed and up-coming favourites.

We sympathise with you at this difficult time, Neville.
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