Annual leave

[Village Idiot1]

I would like to determine how many leave days pilots of Australian based airlines, including turbo prop companies receive.
Qantas
Virgin
Qlink
Tiger
Jetstar
Network
National Jet
Jet Ex
Alliance
Air North
REX

THANKS

[Squawk7700]

ANNUAL leave or leave days due to roster?

Eg, most companies offer 4 weeks annual leave in be corporate world, is this the figure that you are after?

[wishiwasupthere]

H......ho......ha.......Hagen daz?


6 weeks.

[TOUCH-AND-GO]

Pilots get holidays?..

[Village Idiot1]

I'm interested in annual days stated in pilots EBAs

[Capt Claret]

it's been 42 days (6 weeks) for my entire industry experience - 30 years.

[Avgas172]

Most Australian awards (however check your EBA)
4 weeks Annual leave
+ 1 week if working weekends on your roster
+ 1 week if working night shift on your roster

[tail wheel]

"Most Australian awards (however check your EBA) 4 weeks Annual leave..." is correct, however I think pilot awards have always been six weeks annual leave to compensate for the hours rostered/worked without overtime penalty rates.

[mostlytossas]

That is correct. Normal Monday to Friday full time workers regardless of industry get 4 weeks leave even if they work overtime (some EBA's give more or zone allowances),and 10 public holidays/year.
Shift workers get 6 weeks per year to compensate the fact they often have to work public holidays in their roster.

[AerocatS2A]

As per Claret, 42 days.

[Snakecharma]

The typical office worker gets 4 weeks annual leave and from memory about 9-10 public holidays across the year. This is usually expressed as 20 days annual leave (4 X 5 with weekends off not considered leave).

Airline pilots in this country typically get 6 weeks leave (42 days annual leave which is 6 X 7 with no consideration given for weekends) but no public holidays.

So if you did a like for like comparison we get the same number of leave days (within a door two) as Joe public, the biggest difference I suspect lies in the number of designated days off in a roster - many (but not all) pilot EBA's have more than 8 days off in a 4 week roster.

I suspect if we look at public perception we have done ourselves a disservice with managers looking to make cuts in conditions to save a few bucks. "You blokes get X days off a roster, we want to reduce that to y" or "you blokes get 6 weeks a year leave, we want to reduce that to the minimum described in the fair work act of 5 weeks" Yada Yada Yada....they conveniently forget about public holidays and weekends that pilots work but office workers don't...

[tail wheel]

All the Pilot Awards and Bargaining Agreements are available from the Fair Work web site.

HERE is a link to the FWA Document Search page.

[Cynvero]

Hi, I am new to the industry. I would like to know how the annual leave is paid to pilots by the different airlines. Let's say a Captain takes 19 days of annual leave in a month. Is he paid 19 "calendar" days plus 11 business days?

i.e. (Annual Salary / 1976 x (19 x 7.6)) x 1.175 + (Annual Salary / 1976 x (11 x 7.6)) =. being 1976 = hours per year (38 hs/wk x 52 wk/yr) and 7.6 = hs/day

Thanks in advance,

[Maccamacpherson]

Standard in the award is 42

[BO0M]

What you're entitled to and what you're able to get are very different things! It's not corporate Australia where you always get Xmas and NY off and then pick and choose (with certainty) about where you use the rest.

That said though.......we all signed up for that way of life so can't complain haha

[Xeptu]

Most agreements state 42 days per annum, this is not 6 weeks, it is what it says 42 days, balance equals minus "days taken"

[Horatio Leafblower]

One thing to note - National Employment Standards (NES) says 28 days AL with a 17.5% leave loading for all full time employees

Air Pilots Award 2020 adds 14 days without leave loading to the NES requirement above.

Despite what Xeptu says above about 42 days, the Award also says the leave is to be taken in 7 day blocks.

[43Inches]

Some agreements don't include "weekends"/RDO in the days allocated, so the total days allowed equates to the 5 week days but still adds up to 6 weeks leave. It would be unlikely to get much more than 6 weeks as annual and long service leave are considered big liabilities for companies.