Many Not Going to Fit ADS-B
The classic example is ABS in cars. Drivers responded by reducing separation distances between vehicles, the net effect was that the reduction in nose to tail crashes wasn't what was expected.
Eyrie, to be more correct. Talked to both Enigma techs and the Accord owner at AV2008. Followed progress on the net. Accord got certification just recently.
I think the first articles I read about Enigma were late 2007.
I think the first articles I read about Enigma were late 2007.
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I think the same thing was found as ejection seat envelopes were improved. The pilots just waited longer before giving up on recovering without ejecting. People tend to maintain a constant risk profile even as technology should make things safer. This isn't necessarily irrational as nobody lives forever any way and the probability of dying of natural causes gets to be several percent per year as you get older and a voluntary risk of some activity of the order of 1 in a thousand per year (0.1%) doesn't make much difference to your life expectancy.
OZBUSDRIVER:
This is a GPS source for Experimentals and LSA
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/in-t...rod525504.html
Use with any ADSB ready transponder. As it is non TSO'd I wouldn't expect it to be approved for IFR.
OZBUSDRIVER:
This is a GPS source for Experimentals and LSA
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/in-t...rod525504.html
Use with any ADSB ready transponder. As it is non TSO'd I wouldn't expect it to be approved for IFR.
Be careful, the Garmin GPS-20A - and the Dynon GPS-2020 - are not approved for use in Australian ADS-B installations as they have not been TSO'd, so do not meet the requirements for a position source. In the U.S., they "meet the performance requirements of the FAR's" which is deemed suitable over there. But it's not here.
I've been going through the CARs and various TSOs for a month trying to find a technicality that means I can use Dynons offering, but without success so far.
I've been going through the CARs and various TSOs for a month trying to find a technicality that means I can use Dynons offering, but without success so far.
Chronic Snoozer,
Sunfish has got it tagged, the theoretical and the reality are somewhat different, AOPA USA were reporting on what FAA have found so far, and this is with only a very small proportion of the US fleet equipped with either of the US options, so far.
Tootle pip!!
PS: And NTSB study
Sunfish has got it tagged, the theoretical and the reality are somewhat different, AOPA USA were reporting on what FAA have found so far, and this is with only a very small proportion of the US fleet equipped with either of the US options, so far.
Tootle pip!!
PS: And NTSB study
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Which begs the question; Why is such a unit acceptable in the USA but not here? Why do we have so many f*&*ing unique requirements? Why don't CASA and ASA have to justify in detail why they do NOT follow FAA requirements? Australia and CASA are just crazy!
To put it another way: the "not invented here" syndrome is alive and living in AsA and CASA! Anyone remember the Australian DME?
To put that another way. It is axiomatic in business to copy technology that works elsewhere and to only engage in bleeding edge research and development if you are already the worlds leader with, by definition, nobody else to copy.
One commandment is that if there is a system available that works well but doesn't quite suit your business processes, then you always change your business process, NEVER customise or modify the system.
Australia is hardly "leading edge" especially not in anything to do with aviation, let alone aviation regulation and air traffic control, therefore the case for ANY form of unique Australian regulation or practice (short of kangaroo protectors) is absolutely nil.
Be careful, the Garmin GPS-20A - and the Dynon GPS-2020 - are not approved for use in Australian ADS-B installations as they have not been TSO'd, so do not meet the requirements for a position source. In the U.S., they "meet the performance requirements of the FAR's" which is deemed suitable over there. But it's not here.
I've been going through the CARs and various TSOs for a month trying to find a technicality that means I can use Dynons offering, but without success so far.
I've been going through the CARs and various TSOs for a month trying to find a technicality that means I can use Dynons offering, but without success so far.
To put it another way: the "not invented here" syndrome is alive and living in AsA and CASA! Anyone remember the Australian DME?
To put that another way. It is axiomatic in business to copy technology that works elsewhere and to only engage in bleeding edge research and development if you are already the worlds leader with, by definition, nobody else to copy.
One commandment is that if there is a system available that works well but doesn't quite suit your business processes, then you always change your business process, NEVER customise or modify the system.
Australia is hardly "leading edge" especially not in anything to do with aviation, let alone aviation regulation and air traffic control, therefore the case for ANY form of unique Australian regulation or practice (short of kangaroo protectors) is absolutely nil.
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I had a bit of an interesting experience last night about ADSB...
I already was 90% ADSB ready, so when my last transponder blew, I replaced it with a GTX330ES (thanks Jaba!) and boom, I was ADSB compliant, so it didn't cost me anywhere near where a lot of these figures are coming from, and, I didn't even require an EO, but that's another story...
Anyway, it was after midnight, going Rocky to Townsville at 8500 and I there was nothing happening and I asked BNE center how my ADSB was on their end. What followed was, that he couldn't see me that low anywhere basically between 130nm south of Rocky up to Horn Island. I asked if ducking up to FL125 would have done the trick, but he said no. There is basically no ADSB coverage from near Gladstone up to the top of Queensland, around the coast and inland quite a bit for "low level"! It did make me wonder why we are rushing the install when there are huge coverage gaps?
I already was 90% ADSB ready, so when my last transponder blew, I replaced it with a GTX330ES (thanks Jaba!) and boom, I was ADSB compliant, so it didn't cost me anywhere near where a lot of these figures are coming from, and, I didn't even require an EO, but that's another story...
Anyway, it was after midnight, going Rocky to Townsville at 8500 and I there was nothing happening and I asked BNE center how my ADSB was on their end. What followed was, that he couldn't see me that low anywhere basically between 130nm south of Rocky up to Horn Island. I asked if ducking up to FL125 would have done the trick, but he said no. There is basically no ADSB coverage from near Gladstone up to the top of Queensland, around the coast and inland quite a bit for "low level"! It did make me wonder why we are rushing the install when there are huge coverage gaps?
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RatsoreA,
It is my impression that ADSB is a humungous fraud, perpetrated on Industry and the Australian taxpayers to elicit huge bonuses for a few senior managers.
Cant imagine why everyone is getting upset, happens all the time in big business. Just look at the obscene bonuses on top of obscene salaries paid around the country, even when they screw up they still get paid. A certain leprechaun completely buggered an airlines brand, still got his bonuses. By sheer luck and low fuel prices the airline is back in the black. With his next round of bonuses he'll probably be able to buy the bloody airline!!
Meanwhile the shareholders looking at their dividend cheque wonder where the money went.
Why should our Autonomous government corporations be any different?Sheesh! nobody is in control of them except a Murky Mandarin, and he has a different agenda, the minister is asleep at the wheel, If you were running a monopoly, with virtually no oversight wouldnt you have your sticky fingers in the cookie jar?
It is my impression that ADSB is a humungous fraud, perpetrated on Industry and the Australian taxpayers to elicit huge bonuses for a few senior managers.
Cant imagine why everyone is getting upset, happens all the time in big business. Just look at the obscene bonuses on top of obscene salaries paid around the country, even when they screw up they still get paid. A certain leprechaun completely buggered an airlines brand, still got his bonuses. By sheer luck and low fuel prices the airline is back in the black. With his next round of bonuses he'll probably be able to buy the bloody airline!!
Meanwhile the shareholders looking at their dividend cheque wonder where the money went.
Why should our Autonomous government corporations be any different?Sheesh! nobody is in control of them except a Murky Mandarin, and he has a different agenda, the minister is asleep at the wheel, If you were running a monopoly, with virtually no oversight wouldnt you have your sticky fingers in the cookie jar?
I find it more interesting when the likes of ClearedtoReenter and RatsoreA report on the shortcomings of the actual coverage. On this point, I am in agreement regarding the fitment mandate is bogus.
The gear is available, and at various price points. It surprises me the j curve is NOT a place where the system sees 1090ES. Why?
The gear is available, and at various price points. It surprises me the j curve is NOT a place where the system sees 1090ES. Why?
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Still being ADSB compliant would be a heap easier for many people if something like the STRATUS ESG transponder was certified in time, at least you wouldn't have to change your gps at the same time as it has a built in waas gps.
Solutions like the Stratus ESG don't really help IFR aircraft much. RNP now really requires a C146a device - or WAAS. This is made more so by the paucity of ground based aids after the shutdowns. Either IFR aircraft will have a WAAS gps already, or most owners will face up to installing a C146a GPS in order to meet the new PBN requirements.
Stratus ESG might be a cheap way to get make a VFR aircraft ADS-B compliant, but why would a VFR aircraft bother?
The built in WAAS transponders are a solution in search of a problem.
And IFR aircraft owners remain having been raped by CASA (again)
Stratus ESG might be a cheap way to get make a VFR aircraft ADS-B compliant, but why would a VFR aircraft bother?
The built in WAAS transponders are a solution in search of a problem.
And IFR aircraft owners remain having been raped by CASA (again)
