Worst Place To Be A Pilot
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: turn L @ Taupo, just past the Niagra Falls...
Posts: 596
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Interesting comments...
IndoAvis are currently the only place that I'm aware of that will supply Aeronautical maps of Indonesia in any form at all -at heartbreaking expense. The ADF got quite thorny the last time I personally approached them with an enquiry. I do have a rather dated but still useful(ish) copy of the ADF TAGR for the region. IndoAvis maps are generally fairly reliable in solely geographic terms -but often wildly inaccurate in strip and waypoint locations, hence wise to view with a severely jaundiced eye.
Personally I maintain my own database of strips and waypoints, verified by endlessly repeated experience before being relied upon. Most of us work pretty closely to make sure we're all singing out of the same song-book, with personally verified data.
MAF and AMA have developed extremely good data over the years too, which is all very useful in establishing a firm data foundation upon which to build.
IndoAvis are currently the only place that I'm aware of that will supply Aeronautical maps of Indonesia in any form at all -at heartbreaking expense. The ADF got quite thorny the last time I personally approached them with an enquiry. I do have a rather dated but still useful(ish) copy of the ADF TAGR for the region. IndoAvis maps are generally fairly reliable in solely geographic terms -but often wildly inaccurate in strip and waypoint locations, hence wise to view with a severely jaundiced eye.
Personally I maintain my own database of strips and waypoints, verified by endlessly repeated experience before being relied upon. Most of us work pretty closely to make sure we're all singing out of the same song-book, with personally verified data.
MAF and AMA have developed extremely good data over the years too, which is all very useful in establishing a firm data foundation upon which to build.
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking forward to returning to Japan soon but in the meantime continuing the never ending search for a bad bottle of Red!
Age: 69
Posts: 2,976
Received 102 Likes
on
59 Posts
Radio Saigon; Likewise check your pm's
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Canada
Age: 37
Posts: 630
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Pinky, there is quite a few of those strips in Papua too but weren't depicted in the show.
Beoga (spelling?) Is one of those strips where you are committed on the turn to final approach.
There are also quite a few others where the Caravans are committed past certain points because they lack the performance to bug out of there.
I'd love to get my hands on some of these charts if you happen to have some floating around! Closest we get is the G1000 and they have a lot of annoying errors in them... and each update seems to move the errors to a new place...
Beoga (spelling?) Is one of those strips where you are committed on the turn to final approach.
There are also quite a few others where the Caravans are committed past certain points because they lack the performance to bug out of there.
I'd love to get my hands on some of these charts if you happen to have some floating around! Closest we get is the G1000 and they have a lot of annoying errors in them... and each update seems to move the errors to a new place...
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking forward to returning to Japan soon but in the meantime continuing the never ending search for a bad bottle of Red!
Age: 69
Posts: 2,976
Received 102 Likes
on
59 Posts
lilflyboy262...2 Likewise; check your pm's.
Does anyone know the reason why they have ceased filming future episodes/seasons of the show?
Cheers,
T&G
Cheers,
T&G
The primary producer did at least in discussion want to get away from the reality show style, seemingly he failed and was at any rate sacked by the production company apparently.
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking forward to returning to Japan soon but in the meantime continuing the never ending search for a bad bottle of Red!
Age: 69
Posts: 2,976
Received 102 Likes
on
59 Posts
And Massey058; Your post really says it all for the actual 'quality' of the whole series now, doesn't it?
No disrespect to you or any of the other blokes in the company. Anyone who has flown in that part of the World whether it be in PNG, Irian Jaya or anywhere else in that immediate area knows what like Tropical area Mountain flying into one way strips is like.
We have 'been there, done that,' and you try to explain what it's like to someone who has never seen that part of the world!
I have tried and just cannot do it justice.
The only person on these boards who could possibly describe it with any accuracy and clarity was Chimbu Chuckles but he no longer frequents this site.
Em Nau!
No disrespect to you or any of the other blokes in the company. Anyone who has flown in that part of the World whether it be in PNG, Irian Jaya or anywhere else in that immediate area knows what like Tropical area Mountain flying into one way strips is like.
We have 'been there, done that,' and you try to explain what it's like to someone who has never seen that part of the world!I have tried and just cannot do it justice.
The only person on these boards who could possibly describe it with any accuracy and clarity was Chimbu Chuckles but he no longer frequents this site.
an over dramatized production that wouldn't reflect what it's really like.
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: 2000
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"The only person on these boards who could possibly describe it with any accuracy and clarity was Chimbu Chuckles but he no longer frequents this site".................
I don't know, I've been in PNG for 11+ years and I could give it a nudge. Many of the guys I know have been here a lot longer.....20+ years in some cases and they could probably do an even better job.
I don't know, I've been in PNG for 11+ years and I could give it a nudge. Many of the guys I know have been here a lot longer.....20+ years in some cases and they could probably do an even better job.
KL agreed. There are a few other lurkers that don't contribute much that I know were there when I first visited in 93/94. They all started out in the bush and whilst they are still there flying for px they too have been there, done that and have stories to match. Technology has changed, the GA fleet has changed primarily to single engine turbine for Bush work, GPS has come a long way since the days of the Garmin 100. We all did our best with what we had at the time and we all cherish the unique flying we did. 20 years ago there wasn't much GA flying to be had in Irian Jaya outside of AMA and MAF, that has changed as well. The flying, environment and equipment is very similar both sides of the border, it's just that historically there weren't many of 'our types' that were compatible with mission flying over the border.
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Canada
Age: 37
Posts: 630
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Would it be fair to say that with the advent of better technology like the G1000 that the approaches and weather is pushed further than 20-30yrs ago?
Weather Radar meaning that you are more likely to go with thunderstorms etc etc...
Weather Radar meaning that you are more likely to go with thunderstorms etc etc...
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking forward to returning to Japan soon but in the meantime continuing the never ending search for a bad bottle of Red!
Age: 69
Posts: 2,976
Received 102 Likes
on
59 Posts
I don't know, I've been in PNG for 11+ years and I could give it a nudge.
The only person on these boards who could possibly describe it with any accuracy and clarity was Chimbu Chuckles but he no longer frequents this site.
Dr
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking forward to returning to Japan soon but in the meantime continuing the never ending search for a bad bottle of Red!
Age: 69
Posts: 2,976
Received 102 Likes
on
59 Posts
Ha! Chuckles is a bit preoccupied at the moment
said in my best Nthn Queensland nasal accent
