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Old 30th Aug 2015, 16:43
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Hurricane ignaceo hawaii -advice please

Greetings, I'm due to by flying a turbo prop from California to Honolulu on 1 sept, and have no experience of hurricanes and avoidance distances (my work is mainly over Europe). Whilst the Hurricanes itself is not due to hit the island, with winds not getting much above 25kts, our routing will take us North of the advancing path.
We'll be around FL 300-320.
Anyone got any distance to avoid advice please?
Any help greatly appreciated!!

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I don't know about aircraft & hurricanes, but I do know hurricanes. Won't Ignaceo be turning north too, ahead of Hawaii?

For a quick check, I use a research site, http://tropicalstormrisk.com/.
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Crazyivan,
It almost depends on what range you have, whether you can afford too many extra track miles, or too much uncertainty with wind forecasts.
Having been in and around a couple of hurricanes at those latitude around PHNL, my advice is wait for another few days.
That is what we did, and we were flying a B747.
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FL 320 won't get you over a hurricane, that's about mid height of a proper hurricane.
The US weather service is excellent and will have data on winds and distances these winds will be from the hurricane. They are also pretty good with forecasting track and intensity.
Seems to me any decent pilot would already be using those resources.
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They also have cloud tops and turbulence area data etc.
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From ScienceAlert

Three Category 4 hurricanes have just hit the Pacific Ocean at the same time.
For the first time in recorded history, three Category 4 hurricanes have appeared in the Pacific Ocean at the same time, and they’re inching ever-closer to the Big Island of Hawaii. The never-before-seen meteorological event involves the hurricanes Kilo, Ignacio, and Jimena, the latter of which has sustained winds of up to 225 km/h.

According to the US Weather Channel, we haven’t seen anything close to this event before - three simultaneous Category 3 hurricanes have yet to be recorded. While the most immediate threat is to the coast of Hawaii, Japan, the Philippines, and Taiwan are also currently on watch.

Right now, Ignacio poses the biggest threat to Hawaii; at midnight last Sunday, it was about 450 km to the southeast of the Big Island and is expected to travel north of the Hawaiian islands on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The hurricane, which has contained winds of up to 217 km/h, is unlikely to actually hit the coast, but experts are saying residents should expect heavy rain and winds of up to 63km/h as early as tonight, and a 6-metre swell and rip currents in the water before the storm settles back down later in the week. Needless to say - don’t go in the water.

After Ignacio sweeps past the north of Hawaii, it’s not yet clear in which direction it will head next.

Hurricane Jimena, on the other hand, is expected to sustain its ‘major hurricane’ status till at least the midweek, but so far, it poses no threat to any island just yet. But that’s only because forecasters aren’t really sure where its path will take it at this stage.

Kilo is the least threatening of the three, safely churning up the open waters of the Pacific with its 220 km/h winds.

The event has been linked to a stronger than usual El Niño event, which researchers are saying we should start to get used to, as many more are expected in the future.

"The appearance of the chain of hurricanes may be linked to the strengthening El Niño weather pattern being observed in the Pacific," News.com.au reports. "The Australian Bureau of Meteorology says the eastern half of the northern Pacific was now more than one degree warmer than the averages - with patches more than 2 degrees higher."
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Crazyivan,
What Desert Flower is saying is: delay until the system collapses and you have more favorable weather.
In that geographic area, even a single hurricane that threatens the Hawaiian Islands chain is going to be a big one.
I know, been there, done that.
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Hmmm... was this thread started just to get the global warming nonsense mentioned..

"...For the first time in recorded history, three Category 4 hurricanes have appeared in the Pacific Ocean at the same time..."
What a load of crap. How long is the "recorded history" 20 years, 30 years..


The corruption of the climate profiteers is being noticed more and more...
Liberal MP Craig Kelly is curious:
HOW DOES THE COLDEST MONTH IN 20 YEARS BECOME THE HOTTEST MONTH “EVER’’ ?


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Flying B et al,

If one were to examine the met record, one would find that the incidence of recorded hurricanes/typhoons/cyclone/tropical revolving storms/description of choice has actually decreased in the last 80/90 years in the Pacific.

I say "recorded" because met. satellites now pick up systems that may previously have gone unrecorded. Even so, the numbers have decreased.

There were a couple of absolute rippers on the FNQ coast back in the late 1800's.

I am not a "climate change denier" but I do prefer to stick to the facts.

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