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Old 1st Aug 2015, 23:20
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Today Show MH370

Byron Riley; Apparently Australia's most experienced pilot tells all exactly what happened?

Who is Byron Riley?

Certainly didn't tell exactly what happened but did say all pilots do inflight is drink coffee and talk to Flight Attendants?

Where do the media get these people?
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 01:10
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Was it Byron Bailey??? If so he is ex-Ian Bailey RNZAF Nav, RAAF Mirage pilot thence corporate flying I believe..
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 04:05
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MH 370...Friends...and mugs

The Reunion Island flap part still doesnt tells us where it broke off, but the shellfish/marine growth will indicate how long it has been a-drifting from....??.
...near the Maldives???

Interesting to see our Chinese friends abstained from the UN Investigation vote, not supporting Australia regarding MH 17...and here we are spending squillions looking for MH 390 at best guesstimate position and mainly full of Chinese passengers.

Perhaps the Australian taxpayers should ask the Government to abstain from the expenditure, and let the Chinese get on with it themselves.
Seems like they are not that interested, or for coughing any coin.
And Abbott and Co keep telling us we are short of money. Hmmm.
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 06:00
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I saw that interview this morning, he seems to think the a/c ditched and in doing so the engine tore off talking the halperon with it.
Personally I thought he was FULL of it.
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 10:07
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Originally Posted by capt.cynical View Post
I saw that interview this morning, he seems to think the a/c ditched and in doing so the engine tore off talking the halperon with it.
Personally I thought he was FULL of it.
Exactly my thoughts CC. Didn't explain a damn thing. Just provide another conspiracy theory about it being hijacked and landing under power and '...as per B777 Flight Manual...'

Load of BS and a waste of time.

As for the name, may have been Bailey. I didn't quite get the full name. Either way I think Today calling him Australia's most experienced pilot is a crock.
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 13:15
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How come Geoffrey T. wasn't there?
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 13:23
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How come Geoffrey T. wasn't there?
Rival network maybe?
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 18:27
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Who is he

Geez u people are keen, If you really must know. Ex emirates (check and training) B777. Was at EK from the first few delivery of 777's. Fair to say prob one of the most experienced 777 drivers in aus. Now "retired" he flys business jets on a contractual basis.The company I worked used him when we were short on CL604 drivers. Need to know more ??
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 22:39
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Although it hard to see from the pictures on the box. The damage dose not seam consistent with its appearance. Anyone else noted that. And yes aroa spot on. Shell fish size and type must be also consistent interesting times ahead.
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 23:40
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The damage dose not seam consistent with its appearance.
What do you mean exactly by this comment, I'm interested?
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 00:09
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There is no damage. That's the point. I would expect some sort of twisted metal at the attach points. But it is hard to see.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 00:47
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There is no damage. That's the point. I would expect some sort of twisted metal at the attach points. But it is hard to see.
What are you suggesting? The flaperon has been "planted"?
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 01:08
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Yr Wrong, why would you expect or assume you know anything about how a particular aircraft component should look after a crash or a ditching? Let alone all you can see is shitty pictures that are on the internet.

I can just as easily speculate that because it's from the trailing edge and had a lot of wing infront of it, it was substantially shielded from impact forces.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 02:36
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Yr Wrong, why would you expect or assume you know anything about how a particular aircraft component should look after a crash or a ditching? Let alone all you can see is shitty pictures that are on the internet.

I can just as easily speculate that because it's from the trailing edge and had a lot of wing infront of it, it was substantially shielded from impact forces.
Well for a start I would have forgotten more about aircraft structures that what you would ever know. Please inform me how this item was shielded but still have enough impact force to remove it with out any what looks like visible damage. And I'm not saying anything. It's just that I noted that. But then again I guess you did as well.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 04:51
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I think Byron Bailey has more than enough experience to be commenting on this.

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Guarantee Byron has more credibility in his little toes than you guys who get on here and bag him.


He is a fantastic bloke, exceptionally experienced, especially on the 777, very knowledgeable, and he can back it all up by the fact that he is still exceptionally talented at putting an aeroplane where it needs to be.


I fly with him a bit and it is always a great day out.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 06:45
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That does not reflect my experience......
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Mike Exner has written a response to the discovery of the aircraft part.


He suggests that the damage to the trailing edge may indicate that the AC broke up in flight.


Worth a read. (I can't post on the main thread so apols for putting it here)
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 07:58
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And if that's your view from personal experience then that's fine. And my view is from personal experience, and that too is fine. We are both well entitled to our own views. I just get sick of the Australian way of throwing shit at people they've never met.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 12:37
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Thanks TOGA. Would have been nice for Today to make mention of this.

Apologies but my 'bagging' is directed at Today show and not Byron.

They announced him with no qualifying details of his experience.
He cannot back anything that happened to MH370 with fact FYI. It's all speculation.

Another link above tells another story than his so the media drumming up these 'experienced' pilots should be doing so with full knowledge that these are all opinions.

Like the news later that day showing and VA ATR72, A320 and a 737 with quote '...this is the aircraft that had (said problem, can't remember exactly) in LA...' You put the pieces together with that one.

Good on Byron for having the experience he has id love to be in said position but never will, but the media portrays this all as fact when it's not, and then to go on National TV and say all pilots do in flight is drink coffee and talk to FA's?? Does nothing for the industry does it.

I'm sure he is a fantastic guy and he looks like he is by the overly relaxed way he conducted the interview. Didn't instill confidence of his experience hence the thread start.
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