Gliding Towing
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Wasn't making a complaint about the Pilot as such Pinky
many gliders can out run the aeroplane sent the get them mobile again
He beat me onto the ground by a full minute!
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Only a minute? Had he forgotten to release? 
Memory is a lil faded, but IIRC
Hornet Vne 125
Pilatus PC-11, 130 (tin ship)
ASW24, 145.
Stukaburra 118. (stringbag) (tried to achieve this with Mike Valentine in a Mk 4.....with the boards out, beyond the vertical and 104 knots hehe)
Memory is a lil faded, but IIRC
Hornet Vne 125
Pilatus PC-11, 130 (tin ship)
ASW24, 145.
Stukaburra 118. (stringbag) (tried to achieve this with Mike Valentine in a Mk 4.....with the boards out, beyond the vertical and 104 knots hehe)
My apologies for bringing up the past... But my gliding log book from 1972 into 1973 records training flights in Kookaburra Mk 3 and 4 aircraft of four minutes. And one of only three minutes. That was off a 1000' (if you were lucky) winch launch. These S.A. built Edmund Schneider aircraft had ASI's in 'Miles per hour'. So I have no idea what that was in Kts...
Pinky was there some of the time.
The Kookaburra was no thermal performer but at least it was aerobatic. Off a 1000' launch, it was possible to do a quick spin followed by a loop before landing.....
Pinky was there some of the time.
The Kookaburra was no thermal performer but at least it was aerobatic. Off a 1000' launch, it was possible to do a quick spin followed by a loop before landing.....
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118 Kts converted into Mph is still a small number
I found the Mk4 to be a great thermal performer, provided you didn't go in search of 'better' one hehe.
Just grabbed the old Logbook..
Flight # 61 2/01/1989 ES-52 (VH-GRX) Woodvale (the old bendigo strip) Winch 53 mins command.
Noting it back, was my first command flight over ten mins. Did 1 13 the day before dual in the K-7 GNX.
Crikey looking through that pages entries whilst trying to type...what a trip that was!
I found the Mk4 to be a great thermal performer, provided you didn't go in search of 'better' one hehe.
Just grabbed the old Logbook..
Flight # 61 2/01/1989 ES-52 (VH-GRX) Woodvale (the old bendigo strip) Winch 53 mins command.
Noting it back, was my first command flight over ten mins. Did 1 13 the day before dual in the K-7 GNX.
Crikey looking through that pages entries whilst trying to type...what a trip that was!
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Don't be sorry Gerry
Checking my first page, i have 7 entries of 3 mins.
2 entries at 5 mins, of which one was my first solo...and got 8 mins out of the final entry.
I'm pretty sure 1 of the guys on my course had a 1 minute entry. Low level winch failure sim.
2 entries at 5 mins, of which one was my first solo...and got 8 mins out of the final entry.
I'm pretty sure 1 of the guys on my course had a 1 minute entry. Low level winch failure sim.
I once raced the (then) current Qld Gliding Champion from Warwick to McCaffry Field (Jondaryan) - about 45 nm. Him in his Libelle - me in a C150. As he set course at 1500' over the YWCK field, I rolled on the runway.
I beat him - but only just, arriving in the circuit only about 1 min ahead!
I thought that was pretty amazing!
Dr
I beat him - but only just, arriving in the circuit only about 1 min ahead!
I thought that was pretty amazing!
Dr
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ES-52 (VH-GRX)
I flew my first Glider solo in her; 17th January 1970.
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Well thats 2 of us then.
Very fond memories in this lil bus.
Trying to recall the name of the bloke that bought her off the Australian Air League. Last I saw, she looked pretty sad
I note on the CASA register, the old girls details were updated on may 1st.
Hmmm....i hope the new owner gives her rudder the flouro treatment again
Very fond memories in this lil bus.
Trying to recall the name of the bloke that bought her off the Australian Air League. Last I saw, she looked pretty sad
I note on the CASA register, the old girls details were updated on may 1st.
Hmmm....i hope the new owner gives her rudder the flouro treatment again
Jas,
ES-52, GRX is the same Kookaburra Mk 4 that you, Pinky and I flew. I was age 16.
Funnily enough, GRY has always been owned by a close family member of mine. Edmund or his son, Harry Schneider must have reserved a block of VH registrations...
GRY, the now 38 year old Glasflugel H303 Mosquito still gets to fly from time to time out of YGAW. And still looks like brand new.
ES-52, GRX is the same Kookaburra Mk 4 that you, Pinky and I flew. I was age 16.
Funnily enough, GRY has always been owned by a close family member of mine. Edmund or his son, Harry Schneider must have reserved a block of VH registrations...
GRY, the now 38 year old Glasflugel H303 Mosquito still gets to fly from time to time out of YGAW. And still looks like brand new.
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Edmund or his son, Harry Schneider must have reserved a block of VH registrations...
Around the mid 70`s (I think) that particular sequence either became filled or DCA s it still was then,permitted Gliders to take registration marks from anywhere in the available registrations.
The first registrations I remember out of the VH-G sequence were in the VH-KY block. KYA was one of the first ASW-20`s imported into the country.
KYO was the BVGC Astir 77 that met an untimely demise at the BVGC Regatta, in `79 from memory.
I agree with you, Pinky.
That was also in the days when helicopters all had VH-H** registration marks. (As CASA apparently calls them.)
There are now lots of GA aircraft within the VH-G** block.
The Australia Day long weekend BVGC Regatta of 1979 is one that I'd prefer to try to forget.
That was also in the days when helicopters all had VH-H** registration marks. (As CASA apparently calls them.)
There are now lots of GA aircraft within the VH-G** block.
The Australia Day long weekend BVGC Regatta of 1979 is one that I'd prefer to try to forget.
All i can say Dr, is that it must have been a crap day for gliding
So I figure it was a pretty even match as far as straight line speed was concerned.
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First Glider i ever saw out of the G block was XOC.....known locally as exocet.
Geelongs Jantar Junior. At the time, lots of X** were being applied to Gliders...this was VERY early 90's.
Gimme a sec, checking logbook...................
XOB i think it appears to be, the first Junior I flew with GCOV @ Benalla.
IIRC, XOA, XOB,XOC are all Jantar Juniors., imported around the same time, 89, 90 ??
been a long time.......
To the mods and op...sorry for the thread drift, but the hangar memories are too hard to pass up.
Geelongs Jantar Junior. At the time, lots of X** were being applied to Gliders...this was VERY early 90's.
Gimme a sec, checking logbook...................
XOB i think it appears to be, the first Junior I flew with GCOV @ Benalla.
IIRC, XOA, XOB,XOC are all Jantar Juniors., imported around the same time, 89, 90 ??
been a long time.......
To the mods and op...sorry for the thread drift, but the hangar memories are too hard to pass up.
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LOL DR,
If he'd taken a tow to 2000' he would have beaten you by a minute.
I've flown the Libelle, a very forgiving aeroplane, but I have more time in its aerobatic cousin, the Salto. From memory, we used a macready ring setting for about 77 knots most of the time.....anything over about 80 was sink rate territory, or preparation for big fat lazy loop
If he'd taken a tow to 2000' he would have beaten you by a minute.
I've flown the Libelle, a very forgiving aeroplane, but I have more time in its aerobatic cousin, the Salto. From memory, we used a macready ring setting for about 77 knots most of the time.....anything over about 80 was sink rate territory, or preparation for big fat lazy loop
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Indeed, the SZD Juniors XOA, XOB & XOC were all imported from Booker Airfield in the UK in 1990. I was working for the GCV at the time and did initial Form 2's and registration inspections on them. They served GCV well for many years, covering 100's of X/C Km's
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I've flown the Libelle, a very forgiving aeroplane
The BVGC had a H301b Open Libelle in which I logged close to 100 hours. I would not describe its handling as forgiving, indeed it was a difficult machine to fly accurately.
Once mastered though....well, I loved the thing!!
These days if you replaced the Libelle with a more modern ASG29 or JS1 they would beat the Dr by 15mins or more!
180+ kts? Now that IS motoring - with no motor!
.......and to return to the original post............ glider towing with a Pawnee? Flying is flying, but the Pawnee has got to be the easiest flying tail-dragger ever built! The biggest challenge is to not land tail-wheel first!
Personally, I wouldn't give up a well paying job to go tow gliders.
Dr