Plane down Lake Eyre North?
The pic IS of the aircraft stuck.
The pilot, last year organised and led a circumnavigation of Australia (2 SeaRey, 1 Lake, 1 S Petrel) to raise money for "Make a Wish Foundation". He is very experienced. Bad luck.
The pilot, last year organised and led a circumnavigation of Australia (2 SeaRey, 1 Lake, 1 S Petrel) to raise money for "Make a Wish Foundation". He is very experienced. Bad luck.
So how many Seareys do you reckon get stuck and photographed in the quagmire of a vast inland lake each year? In rough dozens. 
I was only poking fun, not "jumping down" anyone's "neck", especially not DF's. If it came out the wrong way, DF, my apologies.
The 'file photos' of aircraft stuck out there - which I assume means photos taken 'before the incident the subject of this thread' - were of the carcass of a 210 from circa 2009(?), which is still out there, and of an Airvan from circa 2014(?) which was retrieved.
I was only poking fun, not "jumping down" anyone's "neck", especially not DF's. If it came out the wrong way, DF, my apologies.
The 'file photos' of aircraft stuck out there - which I assume means photos taken 'before the incident the subject of this thread' - were of the carcass of a 210 from circa 2009(?), which is still out there, and of an Airvan from circa 2014(?) which was retrieved.
FYI the Airvan was flown out after a replacement engine was fitted. Presumably some tracks were worn by 4x4 to ensure the surface was suitable prior to takeoff.
I've spent quite a bit of time on salt lakes in that region, including recovering a few 4x4's that broke through the crust. Making tracks with a 4x4 prior to takeoff will make things worse not better. Applying weight to the surface brings up moisture and makes the crust weaker. You can stand on a salt lake and put weight repeatedly on one spot and have the surface turn from hard to quagmire.
None of the lakes in the region have been fully dry for years. Lake Gairdner has the thickest salt crust and the Dry Lakes Racing Assoc has cancelled its event for the last 2 years (might be 3). Things are looking optimistic for speed week this year (next week). Check out their photos on facebook.
Modern cellphones :-(
You quote: "I tried ringing Trev a while ago but he's in YBDV." My rather ancient Telstra mobile phone worked perfectly when I was at Birdsville about a year ago.
It's been my experience that the operability, reliability and effective range of cellphones is generally inversely proportional to their age
Perhaps Trev has the latest model?!
FP.
Well while we're bringing confusion to thread; shirley there must be some photos of that (airlift)
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I was only poking fun, not "jumping down" anyone's "neck", especially not DF's. If it came out the wrong way, DF, my apologies.
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You quote: "P.S. It has not been on any of the TV channels I watch."
May I commend the ABC to you?
May I commend the ABC to you?
You quote: "I tried ringing Trev a while ago but he's in YBDV." My rather ancient Telstra mobile phone worked perfectly when I was at Birdsville about a year ago.
DF.
Well you can, but the only time I watch the ABC is at the very end of the evening news to catch the weather forecast & even then I miss it more often than not because I am watching another channel.
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Are PVRs old fashion?
DF.
'Stanwell' wrote:
"At least DF has tried to give us a local's assessment - I should just get smarter and watch ABCTV. (yawn)"
Are you sure that DF still lives anywhere near L.C? And how does 'local' knowledge have anything to do with this?
There's a lot of confusion apparently. There's no cheap shot intended to DF as her good natured refuelling service was well appreciated and forever respected.
"At least DF has tried to give us a local's assessment - I should just get smarter and watch ABCTV. (yawn)"
Are you sure that DF still lives anywhere near L.C? And how does 'local' knowledge have anything to do with this?
There's a lot of confusion apparently. There's no cheap shot intended to DF as her good natured refuelling service was well appreciated and forever respected.
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Well, OK gerry,
The last time I flew over Lake Eyre was at FL 200.
It's just that I did spend a deal of time working in the outback.
Hence, I take an interest in what goes on over the border in SA.
Now, if you can help us out with some meaningful info, that would be good...
The last time I flew over Lake Eyre was at FL 200.
It's just that I did spend a deal of time working in the outback.
Hence, I take an interest in what goes on over the border in SA.
Now, if you can help us out with some meaningful info, that would be good...
All of the "meaningful info" has already been posted or linked in this thread. To summarise:
A Searey got stuck in the quagmire at Lake Eyre.
A helicopter went to retrieve the POB the Searey.
After arrival on scene, the helicopter suffered problems that meant it could not depart.
Another helicopter retrieved the POB the Searey and the POB the first helicopter.
All POB lived happily ever after.
The Searey and first helicopter weren't the first and won't be the last aircraft to get stuck on Lake Eyre. Info on their retrieval will be posted if and when people with that info are inclined to post it.
Group hug,
Move on.
A Searey got stuck in the quagmire at Lake Eyre.
A helicopter went to retrieve the POB the Searey.
After arrival on scene, the helicopter suffered problems that meant it could not depart.
Another helicopter retrieved the POB the Searey and the POB the first helicopter.
All POB lived happily ever after.
The Searey and first helicopter weren't the first and won't be the last aircraft to get stuck on Lake Eyre. Info on their retrieval will be posted if and when people with that info are inclined to post it.
Group hug,
Move on.
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Aah, thanks for that, Creamy.
I can sleep at nights now.
I feel so comfortable just knowing that there are people like you around to tell us
all we need to know.
p.s. NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG!
Know something about outback logistics, do you?
pps. I do take your point, made earlier, about how many SeaReys does one see resting on Lake Eyre.
I can sleep at nights now.
I feel so comfortable just knowing that there are people like you around to tell us
all we need to know.
p.s. NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG!
Know something about outback logistics, do you?
pps. I do take your point, made earlier, about how many SeaReys does one see resting on Lake Eyre.
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Know something about outback logistics, do you?
The Searey owner will be holed up at the nearby Best Western Motor Inn or Hilton, waiting for the lake to fill up. He's probably grabbed a hose and run that across to the lake, to help it fill more quickly.
Once the lake's a foot or so deep - that might take up to a couple of days - he can hitch a ride on a local ski boat or tinnie to get back to the aircraft. He could even buy an inflatable 'lilo' and paddle himself out.
Then he just water taxis to the local marina, tops off the tanks, picks up his gear from the hotel, and off he goes.
The logistics seem simple enough to me.
What more, exactly, are you expecting someone to know and post in this thread, that hasn't been posted already?
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Are you sure that DF still lives anywhere near L.C?
Have been able to help Canberra out on a couple of occasions when someone has forgot to cancel SAR.T
here's no cheap shot intended to DF as her good natured refuelling service was well appreciated and forever respected.
I also spent 7 years as one half of the ARO duties. Being on the spot meant I could see any potential hazards (roos & emus) & deal with them immediately. DF.