Aircraft into the ocean off Tasman peninsula?

[Squawk7700]

He's busy commenting on the AirAsia disaster.

[Howard Hughes]

All the news outlets lap up the ramblings and wild speculation of aviation experts (sic). Grandma always said empty vessels make the most noise!

[mickjoebill]

Yachties will also be able to give an accurate appreciation of steady wind and gusts

One sailor commented words to effect it was crap weather for both boats and planes.

s, it would just pay to remember that two blokes have lost their lives in this "relatively unimportant" air crash (as far as the media is concerned, anyway) - and that two families are grieving over the loss of two loved family members.

The story of the search led at least one of the commercial networks' prime time programms this evening.
It has far more coverage due to the connection with the sydney hobart race and also that tv news resources are still in the area to cover the finish of the race.
In my opinion the reporting emphasized and characterised the situation as a search for survivors to keep the story/drama alive, despite knowing that reliable eyewitnesses saw no-one escape as or after it sank (no doubt a horrible experience for those onboard the yatch)

There is usually no comfort in watching or reading the news if you have a close connection to a tragic event.
Ditto reading forums or social media.



Mickjoebill

[ejet3]

Congrats, might as well apply to be an ATSB investigator since you are well and truly qualified to determine the cause of aircraft accidents.

what is your problem dancing dog? i heard he did a step turn at low alt to get a photo of the yacht looks like PILOT ERROR TO ME! if it was a engine failure surely convert speed to hight and get out a mayday!

[mickjoebill]

what is your problem dancing dog? i heard he did a step turn at low alt to get a photo of the yacht looks like PILOT ERROR TO ME! if it was a engine failure surely convert speed to hight and get out a mayday!

Hard to get a good shot from a high wing AC whilst in a low level steep turn centered around the subject.
ABC say it hit water 300 meters from the yatch.

Full marks to SAR continuing despite the yatch crew witnessing the plane sink.
From what we know, events could have occured to cause the crash that would not be categerised as pilot error.


Mickjoebill

[Rotor Work]

RIP


Fly Safe
RW

Update from ABC

Two bodies found in wreck of light plane that ditched off Tasman Peninsula - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

A plane that crashed near Cape Raoul off the Tasman Peninsula has been found at the bottom of the sea, Tasmanian Police have confirmed.
The bodies of the pilot and the passenger were found in the cockpit of the plane wreck, police confirmed.
Inspector Lee Renshaw said an operation to recover the wreck and the bodies would begin immediately.
"Weather conditions, while sloppy, are not windy and that is good for recovery. As long as the weather stays favourable, we hope to make good progress," he said.
More to come.

[ACMS]

So sad, RIP.

You do have to ask why a single was flying around at 500' ( or lower ? ) over such a horrible area in the first place. ( water with rocky cliffs nearby and absolutely no where to land in the event the noise stops )
Surely a PN 68, twin Helo or similar with a suitably qualified "experienced" Pilot would have been more appropriate.......

I know that no matter how much you paid me I would not have placed myself in the situation in the first place.

Anyway it won't help them now........

RIP

[Sunfish]

I first commented on the low flying mast height Cessna antics circa 1974 and 75 when competing in Melbourne Hobart races. They seemed death defying then.

There may also be an issue of turbulence here, my son was racing and and blew a kite in that area it may have been still blowing, strong from the North when the C172 went in.

Anyway this is by IPad. On my yacht MTF.

[Squawk7700]

If our regulator looks closely at the practice, they need to include the single engine helos that chase the offshore racing cats and the Murray River style ski boat shadowing.

[onetrack]

I think this pic tells us plenty. "No margin for error" comes to mind. I cannot see any substantial reason why he would need to be this low.

Photo of low-flying Cessna taken from yacht.

[currawong]

That is not "no margin for error".

That is about 30ft margin for error.

Not everything goes right all the time.

Thoughts to families and friends.

[ACMS]

I wouldn't be over there in a single outside gliding range of a suitable field, if that meant 5,000' then so be it.

There are risks and then there are risks....that's not one I would take...

Just my opinion, after the fact I know.

[RENURPP]

You do have to ask why a single was flying around at 500' ( or lower ? ) over such a horrible area in the first place. ( water with rocky cliffs nearby and absolutely no where to land in the event the noise stops )
Surely a PN 68, twin Helo or similar with a suitably qualified "experienced" Pilot would have been more appropriate......

For goodness sake get over yourself. If it was a PN68 and had a failure it may well have been the same result, if it were a single engine helicopyer it more than likely would have, I can hear your ridiculous claims that no aircraft should only be permitted to fly straight and level below 5000 feet.
Don't forget the dangers of sailing the yachts along that route???

Life is full of risk, these poor guys struck out, it is very sad but it is all part of life.

Aircraft are completely safe if we don't start the engine.

Do you drive on the roads?
Do you understand how many people die on the roads?
If the answer to both is yes you must consider your self a complete fool?