Restarting out of production aircraft
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Restarting out of production aircraft
The twin otter appears to be a huge success again after years out of production.
I thought I'd ask the panel what other aircraft could back again and what could make them viable today given new technologies and emerging markets.
For mine, the Short SD360 made sense for its spaciousness and simplicity. Just iron out a few imperfections (bit noisy) and maybe there's a new market opportunity. Is pressurisation all that necessary for sub 100nm sectors?
Any comments?
I thought I'd ask the panel what other aircraft could back again and what could make them viable today given new technologies and emerging markets.
For mine, the Short SD360 made sense for its spaciousness and simplicity. Just iron out a few imperfections (bit noisy) and maybe there's a new market opportunity. Is pressurisation all that necessary for sub 100nm sectors?
Any comments?
The only reason Viking is succeeding with the Twotter is that it is a specialised aircraft with a specific market.
Airframe wise a Kingair has probably the same labour component as a Chieftain or a 402. If a Chieftain or 402 were reintroduced to the market they would probably cost in the region of 1.5m. Yeah right!
It is the capital cost that is the big killer to restart aircraft in a tight market, where Joe and Jane public expect to pay $59 for a seat for a 1 hour trip!
After Cessna butchered the C206H to make it heaver, slower and less payload I am pleased that they have not continued and bastardised their finest. The C180/185!
Airframe wise a Kingair has probably the same labour component as a Chieftain or a 402. If a Chieftain or 402 were reintroduced to the market they would probably cost in the region of 1.5m. Yeah right!
It is the capital cost that is the big killer to restart aircraft in a tight market, where Joe and Jane public expect to pay $59 for a seat for a 1 hour trip!
After Cessna butchered the C206H to make it heaver, slower and less payload I am pleased that they have not continued and bastardised their finest. The C180/185!
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Viking was taking about turbine single otter and beavers some time back but as with the 400 series twin otter cost is prohibitive. They not selling as many as the thought Shame. Great aircraft done a heap of work on them all over the place.
Viking was taking about turbine single otter and beavers some time back but as with the 400 series twin otter cost is prohibitive. They not selling as many as the thought Shame. Great aircraft done a heap of work on them all over the place.
After Cessna butchered the C206H to make it heaver, slower and less payload I am pleased that they have not continued and bastardised their finest. The C180/185!
And just for you Lancair, Cessna's take on where they thought the 210 was headed.
Other than the stillborn Cessna NGP and the misconceived 162, this was the last time that Cessna put any serious R&D into their S/E line up, just on 30 years ago!
The wing was of composite construction with a NLF airfoil, same span but a lot smaller in area and full of fuel. With the larger tanks and bigger tail Cessna were on the way to somewhere else with the 210 airframe. What a shame it was the General Dynamics came along and buggered things up.
Chieftan, Comanche, 210, Cessna 400 series……
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If a Chieftain or 402 were reintroduced to the market they would probably cost in the region of 1.5m. Yeah right!
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Really have no idea m'self as to whether or not that would be an accurate figure c100driver, but does anyone else think that the day will come where the abovementioned aircraft, suitably modernised/updated will have to have production restarted simply because the existing fleets will be too bloody old?
Walking Ballast; To that list you can add the Hawker Tempest V.
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The whole Cessna line. Produced in 2014. They would be lovely aircraft.
