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Old 19th Sep 2014, 04:39
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When I preparing for the ATPL exam, I find out there is a lot of number in it. like
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36.46.4 State the CAR Part 121/125 performance requirements for clearing obstacles within the net take-off flight path.
CAR 121.211 and CAR 125.213
121.211 Net take-off flight path
(a) Each holder of an air operator certificate shall ensure that, for each aeroplane it operates, assuming the critical engine is inoperative, all obstacles within the net take-off flight path are cleared vertically by at least—
(1) 35 feet in the case of a take-off performed by an aeroplane that is intended to use a bank angle not exceeding 15°; and
(2) 15 feet in the case of a take-off that is—
(i) performed by an aeroplane that is intended to use a bank angle not exceeding 15°; and
(ii) conducted in compliance with 121.207(b)(4); and
(3) 50 feet in the case of a take-off performed by an aeroplane that is intended to use a bank angle exceeding 15°; and
(4) 30 feet in the case of a take-off that is—
(i) performed by an aeroplane that is intended to use a bank angle exceeding 15°; and

Is there anyone know should I memorized all the numbers or is there any place I can refer to during the exam?
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You need to remember the numbers.
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Wait till you see the English proficiency test!
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Then can I find out these numbers in AIP vol2&3, if can't recall it during the test?
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The numbers are not in the AIP Volumes. You need to know this stuff. These exams are not open book. You need the VOL 2&3 as(from memory) a few questions are asked about the aerodrome plates.

If you can't recall the numbers then you are going to guess..my opinion would be "b".

727..haha funny mate.
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Imagine you are at the runway, about to take off.
You have just swapped ends, are you going to open up the AIP and look at figures?
Some stuff you just need to know!
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.....so now you're sitting in the back?????
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The real question here is, when he gets a real OE INOP just past the critical point, whether he's going to get out his protractor and ruler to measure all the angles and distances in order to remain compliant?

Obviously, remembering the key numbers could come in quite handy at such a time. However, the question he's asking here seems far more relevant to flight operations planning, than to to a pre-TO briefing. e.g. Can we fly a B777 between airports X and Y safely and in compliance? Rather than what does he do when he gets a birdstrike on #2 just after rotation when there's a big TV mast 100m off the centreline at 2km from the boundary fence.
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Originally Posted by Tankengine
Imagine you are at the runway, about to take off.
You have just swapped ends, are you going to open up the AIP and look at figures?
Some stuff you just need to know!
Not sure what you mean buy "swapped ends" but the idea that one would need to remember, let alone make calculations from these numbers while in the cockpit is ... well, quaint, at best. Any necessary calculations involving those numbers have been accomplished long before you walk out to the airplane. Generally, by someone else. Even if you did memorize those numbers, you would not have the obstruction data needed to apply them in calculations, so being able to recall the numbers is pretty much pointless in the real world, outside exams.
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You should try one of the online ATPL law courses that are available i think courseware does one
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