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Old 24th Jul 2014, 22:38
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NSW Police Advertised Flight Positions

Big half page ad in today's Australian for fixed and rotary wing positions $85,873 ++

I'm not aware of what fixed wing aircraft they operate but ad indicates that you must have appropriate endorsements???

Looks like a good opportunity just the same if you use Qld / NT Police as a guide
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According to the CASA Register, the fixed wing fleet includes a Cessna 206, a 208, and a 1977 Grob glider...

I guess the Grob must be for silent aerial surveillance work.
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I don't know what they use the other aircraft for, but they use(d) the 206 for speed enforcement. It's got a camera mounted on it that measures the speed of vehicles on the ground.
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also used for 'survey' flights..
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Polair culture

Had three mates in Polair, they all have said it is good air work and sits more as a longer term career than a job. As aviators they come off as extremely professional.

However seniority is heavily entrenched in the police culture, with several officers on the force having applications for Police to subsidize their flight training, that said however a lot of applications are denied when positions are outsourced to civilian contractors.

Two mates of mine had to leave because the environment became so toxic against them with guys giving them a hard time about that they "jumped the cue" and politics of the place reaching boiling point.

Just so others consider that this might exist when they apply,

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Well maybe those who want to keep it all in house might want to have a read of the reccomendations of the fatal WA Police air wing accident which killed 4 officers and is the biggest loss of life for the WA Police force in one event.

24 Hour aviation is not the realm of private pilots it is for full time professionals.
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I spent 6 years "in the job" at Polarbear.

The OIC (police officer, not pilot) was important to how well the place worked. First one was an old and somewhat bent dude with a corrupt sidekick. We managed to get along but the interference from above was annoying. The sidekick went on extended sick leave when his affairs came under investigation.

Then along came Mr Up-and-Rising-Star, promoted from Sgt to Inspector and he started out brilliant. Let the flying side be run by the pilots and aircrew, with just the right amount of directives and common sense from his office. The rising star was promoted out of the place, and in came Mr-Wait-For-Retirement. This idiot's catchphrase was "If you have shiny shoes and short hair, it doesn't matter what is in the middle."

His idea of the ideal Air Wing was a police station that, rather inconveniently, had helicopters in it. Pilots weren't "real policemen" so couldn't be trusted to make a good decision. He made some astoundingly poor decisions costing money, time and almost lives, just so that every i was crossed and every t was dotted. Yeah, that's how he thought. Make no waves, and soon you can be retired to the south coast and go fishing.

This drivel above is part of the question: Should Police pilots be
(a) professional pilots who have been trained to assist the cops on board, or
(b) should they be long-term cops (who naturally "understand how bad guys think") who are then given pilot training?

In the US it seems that option B is the go, but if the Pork Chopper gets used for more than drifting around the sky using long lenses on stabilised cameras, then option A would be the wise choice.

ANYBODY can learn to be a cop. The police selection process even had an IQ test, and if the candidate scores over 100 they are asking him why he wants to be a cop instead of having a real job?

But not anybody can learn to be a pilot in an acceptable timeframe, and be able to operate a rescue aircraft straight out of CPL training. In any event, the pilot/cop simply puts the aircraft where the police crew asks him to put it. He has the judgment to say "No, that is too risky / illegal / out of limits, let's try something else."
The new cop/pilot might be so bound up in the task that he doesn't consider (or is not aware of) all the factors.

Waddaya reckon?
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