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Old 17th Sep 2015, 12:12
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Continuing the great Australian stagnation, old men that refuse to let go and refuse to change. It's a problem in every industry I've ever worked in. The old ways were always the best and "no young $&@&)/ is going to tell me otherwise."

Unless there is a great cultural revelation it's unfortunate the country will have to wait for these type of people to die before any progress is made. Cue the old men giving me what for........
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Ah.....The spikey hair gel with tattoos generation has spoken. Took me 20 years from first job to a Command. Us old men have earned our spot in the sun, you could do the same. You lot can't spell either!
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Old 17th Sep 2015, 21:37
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Originally Posted by By George
Ah.....The spikey hair gel with tattoos generation has spoken. Took me 20 years from first job to a Command. Us old men have earned our spot in the sun, you could do the same. You lot can't spell either!
Lol hear we go the old timers are saying the young whippets need to earn their spot so have some respect..... Welcome to 2015 times and life generally are changing.
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50 50 and Red dirt

When you can demonstrate your preparedness and suitability to take over from me, then and only then will I consider passing the mantle over to you.

In the mean time you would be well advised to learn more about command responsibility and that is much more than simply sitting in the LHS.

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Old 18th Sep 2015, 04:31
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The 25-30 year old nowadays will have on average 17 jobs and 5 different careers. The days of waiting patiently for the mantle to be passed no longer exist. So are the days of the captain having any authority outside his cockpit. You will not decide who takes over or when, your HR department and management team will. In fact the opportunities for advancement are far greater outside the cockpit.
Unless you plan on living forever you will give up the mantle eventually whether you like it or not. As people like me move on to more lucrative opportunities the ones that follow will only get younger and you will only get older and less willing to give in. But it is inevitable.

20 years from first job to command? You must be kidding, in that time my daughter will be finished with her first job and looking for an upgrade!

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Old 18th Sep 2015, 04:55
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17 jobs and 5 different careers..?? So in a 40 year working life, they will spend on average, 8 years/career or 2 - 3 years/job. Based on that, they won't be any good at anything..! Far from job hopping to 'more lucrative opportunities', I fear the reality may be more like long stretches of unemployment between all these 'dream jobs' they'll be doing..! I know things are different now, and times they are a changing, but sometimes I think the gap between fantasy & reality is getting wider by the generation.
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IFEZ that is not pie in the sky thinking, that is the reality of the workforce right now, and has been for some time. Now to qualifiy as a senior whatever...project manager, investigator, HR business partner, the requirement is appropriate qualifications and five years experience. Five. The average time spent in one job is 3 years. The longest I have ever been unemployed is 6 weeks.

Compare that to the difficulty of getting then retaining an entry level aviation job. If you have spent more than 5 years in a single job it is looked as a a lack of motivation to advance, not loyalty. Sorry for the thread drift but the realities of attitudes outside aviation are very different from those inside.
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