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That's where I'm headed... With or without instructor, private singles. Obviously single charter you are not going to deliberately glide and twins are obvious.
I cannot find any specific reference to not shutting down a single in flight, except the aircraft is to be operated in accordance with the manufacturers procedures. A powered glider contains procedures for shutting down, restarting the engine in flight, whereas your typical aeroplane doesn't. You also cannot carry pax when simulating emergencies.
Engine off operations for singles are approved in the event of engine failure, and may be required when curfews are in force at certain aerodromes - Ref: CAR 69
Engine off operations
Ultralights - that's an RAAus procedure which has been approved by CASA by having it included in the Ops Manual. You'll find there are a few RAAus things covered by exemptions and/or inclusion in the ops manual.
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Yep... RAA is where I was headed.
So it seems in the GA world it's a no-no, however RAA have an exemption to do it only when a CFI is present.
Makes sense...
The Virus and Sinus are interesting as the POH allow it but the RAA say so. In the GA world, I believe that would be ok as it's a motorised glider.
So it seems in the GA world it's a no-no, however RAA have an exemption to do it only when a CFI is present.
Makes sense...
The Virus and Sinus are interesting as the POH allow it but the RAA say so. In the GA world, I believe that would be ok as it's a motorised glider.
Tankengine,
Do you care to expand on this please?
At my local airfield, we have an operator with Diamond 36's conducting joy-flights; their favorite trick is to shut down the engine on approach and feather the propellor, then declare themselves "gliders" thus gaining priority over all the powered aircraft in the circuit. I've certainly observed them cutting off others on base or final leg whilst using this ruse. While I've always thought this dreadful airmanship (why shut down a good engine in the circuit?) plus an abuse of the rules pertaining to gliders having right of way (they're not really gliders, are they?), are you saying that this is illegal also?
Do you care to expand on this please?
Be careful if you think you can operate a motorised glider, engine off, as a GA aircraft.
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Dora, do they not glide in from from further afield? I have never observed the practise you describe, I should be more observant 
Do you think this would help us out in the priority of circuit traffic ?
Do you think this would help us out in the priority of circuit traffic ?
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Not allowed in GA? Hmm, I know we simulate engine-out forced landings at idle, clearing the engine at regular intervals. I have, however, had an instructor actually the engine shut down completely in flight. Doing my Basic Aerobatics endorsement. It was requested I roll inverted (C150) , I complied, whereupon the engine was cut and the question asked, "what do you do now" . I simply rolled right way up, put the nose down a little, and re-started. She commented that it was amazing how many students tried to re-start when inverted, so it must have been a regular test.
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At the pre solo stage one of the exercises done was engine restart in flight (Chipmunk) - early 60's. No starter fitted, aircraft was slowed so that the prop came to a stop, and then nose lowered to note at what speed the prop started to rotate and restart. Seem to remember it taking quite a speed to get the prop moving again. Don't know if it was a required exercise at the time, or if the instructor was just showing what it takes.