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Goulburn: final death throws.

Old 2nd Jun 2014, 05:36
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Goulburn: final death throws.

well, target a specific business much...

NOTAM INFORMATION
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GOULBURN (YGLB)
C3/14
PRIOR PERMISSION REQ FOR OPS ON TWY A RUN UP BAY
CTC AD REPORTING OFFICER 0403 368 933
FROM 02 220401 TO PERM

C10/14
AIP DEP AND APCH (DAP) EAST YGLB AMD
GNSS ARRIVAL SECTOR B MINIMUM ALTITUDE BETWEEN 25NM AND 11NM 4800FT
DIST/ALT TABLE ADD 5.8/4800 DELETE 5.5/4700
FROM 04 150654 TO PERM

C13/14 REVIEW C12/14
RWY 04/22 NOT AVBL TO ACFT BELOW 650KG ON WEEKENDS
EXCEPT WITH 60MIN PN TO ARO
FROM 05 150215 TO PERM
HJ
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 06:39
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So, what does an AD Reporting Officer do?
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 07:03
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Devil Payback?

Let me guess.

There is a flying school on the airfield which competes (very successfully) against that operated (very shambolicly) by the AD owner.

His last 10 years of slander have failed to dent her reputation so JF's answer is to NOTAM her out of existence - am I correct?
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 07:03
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That would be funny if it wasn't sad. So the AD operator is stopping RAA Training operations and private RAA pilots from using 04/22 on weekends. Don't think I've ever seen a < less than MTOW figure ever quoted in a notam before !

The usual method would normally simply be to up their rent or just kick them out like they did at Sunbury airfield last month.
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 07:18
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pretty much spot on Horatio..

but even reading the notam, No one, not just Raaus, can use the Taxiway or runup bay without his permission...

Limits the airfields use dont you think when everyone needs permission to taxi off the runway! or risk serious damage using the unsealed runway 08/26 or the grass taxiways, i would even taxi the savannah on them without huge tundra tyres



Im sure the ACCC would like to hear about uncompetitive conduct of a certain business.
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 07:19
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So no other RAA aircraft can use the runway, yet GA can.
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 07:26
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I read the NOTAM as PPR for ops on the run up bay, not the taxiway. Do runups at the holding point or on the runway. Simples!
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 07:33
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hh yes, i can see that, amazing what different interpretations come up with
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 08:16
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I see a solution.

Organise a charity fund raising fly in......say for RFDS.

Advertise it heavily in all the mags and aviation traders etc, as well as forums such as PPRuNe.

Suggest that all weekend people should go flying for local scenics and taxi via that taxiway and do their very exhaustive run ups at the holding point. But be prepared for long delays.

I am sure it would not take long for the "word to get around" on the purpose of them.

Then hand out free copies of printed NOTAMS with the phone number to call (at all hours) asking for advice on when it is suitable and just for a friendly chat.
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 08:32
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What's the legalisation that says you must follow notams to the letter ?
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 09:17
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Your terrible, Jabawocky!
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 09:20
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Your terrible, Jabawocky!
Yes, but I like his style.
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 09:52
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Geez I was trying to be modest in my thoughts.



Does anyone want a thorough battle plan?
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 10:18
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I'm with WIWUT, read it literally. You can't use the taxiway alpha run-up bay without prior permission.

You need to depart, you need to run-up. You had no way of contacting the ''ADRO" (no mobile, 50c coin etc)..surely you HAVE to run-up at the holding point or lined up!
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 10:19
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Isn't it fascinating how we in Aus think up new aviation frustrations

Now we have a runup bay that cannot be used for run ups and a runway that can't be used if your too light! ( could they use the grass either side )

What's next
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 10:30
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Could this have any connection to his Bandierante jump plane that is operating parachuting on weekends?

He has pretty much just NOTAM'd his own priority......

That's ok, maybe I need to start messing about with his approaches
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 11:14
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That's ok, maybe I need to start messing about with his approaches
You think like I do
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 13:33
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An early model C150 with a skinny pilot and an hrs fuel would be under the 650 kg limit. So what is the legal position in regards to ignoring a notam that is blatantly vexatious rather than operational.
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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 14:21
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Ultralights, good luck dealing with the ACCC on this issue!

But it appears to me that AD owners in Aus are able to micromanage their assets, in whatever way they see fit. And of course, always to their financial advantage.

Apart from YGLB, YSCB sure knows this pretty well too.
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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 00:58
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RWY 04/22 NOT AVBL TO ACFT BELOW 650KG ON WEEKENDS

Whats wrong with using 08/26?

EXCEPT WITH 60MIN PN TO ARO

PN isn't the same PPR, just need to notify them.
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