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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 04:28
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CALLOUT FEE COBAR

Believe there is an $85 callout fee at Cobar NSW,plus Avgas at $2.60/lt.........OUCH !
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 05:25
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Easy - don't go there!
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 06:05
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Believe there is an $85 callout fee at Cobar NSW,plus Avgas at $2.60/lt.........OUCH !
....and your point is?

Avgas is $2:30+ in YBTL, so $2.60 seems OK in Cobar to me - someone has to haul it out there!

$85 call out? What would you charge to get dragged away from your family out of hours? The guy is on site during normal working hours.

$85 is the equivalent of about 10 min flying in my aeroplane. If you don't wanna pay - don't go there, but me (?) - I'll gladly pay for the service!

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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 06:29
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$85 is the equivalent of about 10 min flying in my aeroplane. If you don't wanna pay - don't go there, but me (?) - I'll gladly pay for the service!
Same here, enjoyed the refuellers company at Cobar not that long ago. His mates in the mines would earn far more.
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And they'd work a fair bit harder.
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 21:33
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$85 is cheap for a call out fee, standard from what I've seen is $110 (inc GST) and I know of one that is $250, but I won't out them on here!
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 03:47
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It may be cheap when your employer is paying for it, or you can legitimately claim it on your tax. If you don't want to refuel aircraft outside of office hours don't take the concession on. The rest of the community is 24/7, factor it into your fuel cost & stop ripping consumers off.

Amazing how you lot have been conditioned to 'user pays' next you'll be championing shell charging you an after hours fee to fill your car.
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 04:48
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Sometimes the refuellers get a bit greedy.

It was mid-morning on a Saturday, and the Geraldton Refueller demanded a $50 call-out fee IN CASH to refuel three GA aircraft lined up waiting for him while he finished refuelling the RPT flight

He treated each aircraft as a separate call-out so he made $50 three times. No pay, No fuel.

Nice money if you can get it....

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Look for these magic words in ERSA:
H24 AVGAS Self Serve Cardswipe Bowser
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 05:38
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...His mates in the mines would earn far more.
And they'd work a fair bit harder.
Pigs arse. Miners spend more energy each day avoiding work than they would burn just doing the little bit expected of them.
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 06:56
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I was a filler 'er up gas man in another life & did a stint in Broome back in the 80's. Can't think of the guys name whom owned the Mobil agency way back then but I used to charge a call out fee ('cause that's how I got paid) for the Airlines (AWA, F28's) & the Army as they passed thru with their funny PT6 powered drug runner planes I used to call 'em but any blow in I did for free where I could provided I could manage it in a timely manor.
Also back in the 80's at Tulla we re-fuellers where on better money than any pilot bar the Capt's, now the poor buggers are getting flogged....ahhh the good old days where rorts where common place !


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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 07:30
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Pigs arse. Miners spend more energy each day avoiding work than they would burn just doing the little bit expected of them.

OK........lol.

Wal-star, me mate at Tulla is on a fair whack, not as good as the good ole days, but not bad
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 07:47
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Sometimes the refuellers get a bit greedy.
So PinkusDickus, question for you ... What is the average daily wage/income you and your flying mates get per day when you are at work? Honestly. Three planes? who owns them?

Assuming you three were the only punters for the day he made $150. Assuming he serves 20 per week average year round, that's only 50K.

I don't condone these call out fees but personally, I want a decent days pay for a decent days work. Surely everyone is entitled to this?
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 07:52
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Lets say the refueler lives 10k or so from Airport.
He has to put on PPE, drive to airport, get the tuck out, deliver the fuel, complete paperwork, put the truck away, secure the yard, drive home. Not to mention the DAMP requirements for 0.0 BAC which effectively means if he / she is on call, they can never have a drink.

So an after hours overtime rate, $85.00 is pretty fair in my books. As long as he is giving you a tax invoice for it. Charging multiple aircraft for the same callout is taking the pt1ss though.

Some airports are charging well over a hundred at the moment.
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 08:10
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I haven't been to Cobar since 2009 but the refuel guy let me hangar my Auster and drove me to town AND back again in the morning.

Couldn't ask for a better service.

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Pay it or walk ... The greenies will love you for it
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 08:57
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'JR' back in the 80's some very 'enterprising' re-fuellers where pulling in close to $100K , like they say good money if you can get it !:-)


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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 11:21
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Flight planning from my perspective is choosing refuelling stops that have a swipe bowser. There can't be any justification to charge multiple fees when the aircraft are lined up waiting.

Some posters allude to the fact that it's the call-out fee that feeds the refuellers family, which really is crap. They would be on a wage paid from the fuel sale, and pilots have always been a captive audience when it comes to price.

The call out fee must be a lucrative income, considering the vocal resistance when there is any mention of installing swipe bowsers.
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 12:16
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Just ask him for a receipt for the callout fee. If he refuses, call Shell/BP/Mobil and report him. Then call the ATO... Simple.

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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 19:29
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Just ask him for a receipt for the callout fee. If he refuses, call Shell/BP/Mobil and report him. Then call the ATO... Simple.
Yawn, sigh, right, lets be judge jury and police

The very best speed mod that can be fitted to any aeroplane is bigger fuel tanks. Fortunately this is what I have, all 8 odd hours worth. Choosing an airport with a swipe bowser then becomes easier, but when in the boondocks ..... pay the man.
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