Textron Takes Over Beech.
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Textron Takes Over Beech.
From today's Avweb (USA)....
"Textron Confirms Beech Acquisition
Textron, the parent company of Cessna and Bell Helicopter, has confirmed it will purchase Beechcraft Corp. for approximately $1.4 billion in cash, in a press release issued late on Thursday. "The acquisition of Beechcraft is a tremendous opportunity to extend our general aviation business," said Textron CEO Scott Donnelly."
And so, the Aviation World continues to get a little bit 'smaller'....
Cheers
"Textron Confirms Beech Acquisition
Textron, the parent company of Cessna and Bell Helicopter, has confirmed it will purchase Beechcraft Corp. for approximately $1.4 billion in cash, in a press release issued late on Thursday. "The acquisition of Beechcraft is a tremendous opportunity to extend our general aviation business," said Textron CEO Scott Donnelly."
And so, the Aviation World continues to get a little bit 'smaller'....
Cheers
From where I sit this appears to be a good thing. Don't forget that Textron also own Lycoming, so there may be a few engine changes there.
Based on their current models, there appears to be very little overlap between Beech and Cessna models. Cessna have not produced a a piston or turboprop twin for over 20 years, so the Baron and Kingair will slide nicely into the range. Beech on the other hand do not currently produce any fixed-gear piston singles or utility turboprop singles, and apart from the Premier have not had much success in the jet field. The Caravan and Citation will fit nicely there.
Additionally, they would appear to be a company committed to aviation, and GA in particular. One strong company producing a reasonably full range of aircraft can only be good.
Based on their current models, there appears to be very little overlap between Beech and Cessna models. Cessna have not produced a a piston or turboprop twin for over 20 years, so the Baron and Kingair will slide nicely into the range. Beech on the other hand do not currently produce any fixed-gear piston singles or utility turboprop singles, and apart from the Premier have not had much success in the jet field. The Caravan and Citation will fit nicely there.
Additionally, they would appear to be a company committed to aviation, and GA in particular. One strong company producing a reasonably full range of aircraft can only be good.
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Hardly a nightmare, one only need to look to the new (Textron) production model 182s that switched to Lycoming power to see that it is a minor issue. Some models of the Baron also had Lycomings installed. Interestingly, the Skycatcher was designed specifically for a TCM engine. I don't expect many changes in powerplant selection.
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Chimbu Warrior has nailed it.
Mind you after dropping a $95 spark plug that went in the bin, the Bonza could do with a redesign and an IO540.
Yes many LAME's and pilots would have screwed the plug in…….but wonder why later it ended in a trashed engine.
I think the Textron buy is an excellent strategic move. If and only if I think a resurgence, (no not recovery) of GA world wide is on the cusp of a 5 year recovery.
Mind you after dropping a $95 spark plug that went in the bin, the Bonza could do with a redesign and an IO540.
Yes many LAME's and pilots would have screwed the plug in…….but wonder why later it ended in a trashed engine.
I think the Textron buy is an excellent strategic move. If and only if I think a resurgence, (no not recovery) of GA world wide is on the cusp of a 5 year recovery.
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Right then, expensive redesign due to some dufus dropping a spark plug? When did a failed spark plug ever "trash" an engine? I'll be highly surprised if we see much, if any changes in powerplant manufacturers
When did a failed spark plug ever "trash" an engine?
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Mind you after dropping a $95 spark plug that went in the bin, the Bonza could do with a redesign and an IO540.
Yes many LAME's and pilots would have screwed the plug in…….but wonder why later it ended in a trashed engine.
Yes many LAME's and pilots would have screwed the plug in…….but wonder why later it ended in a trashed engine.
Back to the topic
I notice in the press release that they mention the benefits of the King Air and Hawker 4000 to the Cessna range.
No mention of the piston aircraft?
From the way the new brooms at Cessna are attempting to make obsolete the legacy fleet and the "no future" comments re the C162 I would be concerned that the Bo and the Baron are also in threat.
No mention of the piston aircraft?
From the way the new brooms at Cessna are attempting to make obsolete the legacy fleet and the "no future" comments re the C162 I would be concerned that the Bo and the Baron are also in threat.
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Ahh Mr King of Beach!!!
Very Simple, a Lycoming IO540 on dynamical mounts with a redesigned cowl might just get a chance at having spark plugs that are accessible by human hands. Cylinder 6 I think (front left) it was DOH!!
I think someone said something about a DUFUS…Yup that was me!
Ferry Dude, if you are actually a ferry pilot and ferrying piston aircraft you might want to learn a lot more about the humble spark plug. PM me your email address and I can send you some interesting reading.
The failure mode of a dropped plug is from a cracked ceramic. This then manifests itself by either a non heat sinking ceramic part or now non heat sinking electrode tip that starts off a preignition event. This then destroys the piston inside a minute or two, and after that 5-6 minutes later the engine runs out of oil and seizes.
A preignition event can be cured if caught very quickly by an alert and knowledgable pilot with an engine monitor. The problem for a ferry pilot is then one of fuel management if it happens at a critical point in the trip, but it buys you time at least.
Very Simple, a Lycoming IO540 on dynamical mounts with a redesigned cowl might just get a chance at having spark plugs that are accessible by human hands. Cylinder 6 I think (front left) it was DOH!!
I think someone said something about a DUFUS…Yup that was me!
When did a failed spark plug ever "trash" an engine?
The failure mode of a dropped plug is from a cracked ceramic. This then manifests itself by either a non heat sinking ceramic part or now non heat sinking electrode tip that starts off a preignition event. This then destroys the piston inside a minute or two, and after that 5-6 minutes later the engine runs out of oil and seizes.
A preignition event can be cured if caught very quickly by an alert and knowledgable pilot with an engine monitor. The problem for a ferry pilot is then one of fuel management if it happens at a critical point in the trip, but it buys you time at least.
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Ahh Mr King of Beach!!!
Very Simple, a Lycoming IO540 on dynamical mounts with a redesigned cowl might just get a chance at having spark plugs that are accessible by human hands. Cylinder 6 I think (front left) it was DOH!!
Very Simple, a Lycoming IO540 on dynamical mounts with a redesigned cowl might just get a chance at having spark plugs that are accessible by human hands. Cylinder 6 I think (front left) it was DOH!!
I think someone said something about a DUFUS…Yup that was me!
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Damned apple spelling correction…..that should have read dynafocal but I assume you got that.
And yes Beachie, your awesomeness is plentiful!
Ferrydude,
Maybe my bitching about the ease of replacing the front left lower plug is a bit …well….being soft/precious/whinging. But if you are claiming total nonsense about dropped spark plugs and trashed engines, I have a number of, and can round up plenty more data files, photo's and piles of scrap metal for you to provide an alternate hypothesis for the damage.
Please educate us as to how this is
And yes Beachie, your awesomeness is plentiful!
Ferrydude,
Maybe my bitching about the ease of replacing the front left lower plug is a bit …well….being soft/precious/whinging. But if you are claiming total nonsense about dropped spark plugs and trashed engines, I have a number of, and can round up plenty more data files, photo's and piles of scrap metal for you to provide an alternate hypothesis for the damage.
Please educate us as to how this is
Total nonsense.