RPT for YBAF
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RPT for YBAF
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Early 2014?! It's already late 2013!
Early 2014?! It's already late 2013!
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Having bugsmashers in the circuit doing glide approaches, flapless approaches, assymetric approaches with an increased volume of RPT turboprops in the mix will be very interesting. 
I think RWY28R/10L would require a PAPI of some sort though if said RPT flights were to flow past EOD?
I think RWY28R/10L would require a PAPI of some sort though if said RPT flights were to flow past EOD?
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Correct Jaba,
But I would imagine the circuit at YBAF would be more saturated with bugsmashers than YBSU. You don't have contra ccts happening at YBSU!
It'll be interesting to see who puts their hand up to operate out of YBAF first.
Can't see any of the big names lining up too soon. Maybe a good spot for SKP?
But I would imagine the circuit at YBAF would be more saturated with bugsmashers than YBSU. You don't have contra ccts happening at YBSU!
It'll be interesting to see who puts their hand up to operate out of YBAF first.
Can't see any of the big names lining up too soon. Maybe a good spot for SKP?
Remember ASA only provide an air traffic SERVICE in class D.So can we expect VFR traffic will be grounded whilst an IFR Dash arrives or departs? great for training aircraft efficiency!
Even when they are using 01 BN on a clear night you hear the AF bound IFR aircraft being vectored to delay / or holding waiting to get over to AF to get down into the circuit
In IMC with 01 in use you would need to cover the extra fuel waiting for your gap in the 01 sequence to have a crack at your AF instrument approach
Still its better than the BN delays
In IMC with 01 in use you would need to cover the extra fuel waiting for your gap in the 01 sequence to have a crack at your AF instrument approach
Still its better than the BN delays
Not really, if you need to wait for a gap in the 01 arrivals to land at YBAF, you might as well just use the slot at BNE!
Day VMC, shouldn't be too much trouble. Anything other than that, forget it.
It sounds like they're only planning a handful of flights a day.
Day VMC, shouldn't be too much trouble. Anything other than that, forget it.
It sounds like they're only planning a handful of flights a day.
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Could be pretty cool. I flew into Archerfield once, and that old terminal acts like a commemoration of the General Aviation industry that was once booming and exciting. Now, like most old GAAP aerodromes it's not far off from looking like ghost town. Could be nice to see some living people in and about there.
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Won't be delays just for the arrivals to YBAF. Expect the YBAF RPT departures to wait on the ground as well due to BN ILS traffic, since I assume they'll all want the AF radar SID and won't shoot out OCTA on a VFR departure.
Question for those in the know, I haven't operated out of AF for a few years and when I did I never paid much attention to it as it was all Day operations, but is there a curfew at AF? Would this be a way around the problem of conflicting with BNE traffic by operating during their curfew period when they aren't around?
Obviously this will probably catch up eventually if there isn't already a curfew but it would be sometime I'd suspect before the complaints reach a level high enough to warrant attention and longer still before some committee is organised to even look into it!
Obviously this will probably catch up eventually if there isn't already a curfew but it would be sometime I'd suspect before the complaints reach a level high enough to warrant attention and longer still before some committee is organised to even look into it!
Brisy doesn't have a curfew. They try their best to operate to noise abatement procedures between about 2200 and 05-0600 local, but no curfew as such.
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Ixixly, it wouldn't necessarily help unless they want to operate at very odd hours. AF TWR hours are currently only 0700-1700 local. Outside of that it is class G services. BN sequence starts by 0600 local and runs pretty much until 2200, depending on the time of year (ie daylight savings in southern states). Of course, there are quiet(ish) periods during the day, but they can be hard to predict. BN RWY19 doesn't present too many issues, however extended periods on RWY01 (as has been the case recently) could be awkward.
Morno, I read somewhere that K. Rudd was suggesting a curfew for Brisbane.
The AF solution would be good if it worked. Might ease the load on Bris.
Given that the country takes 30 years to even decide to build an airport it would be handy if they tried to use other airports rather than mixing Navajos with 777's. Would be handy where its mining charter and people just want to get on and get off the machine as quickly as possible.
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The AF solution would be good if it worked. Might ease the load on Bris.
Given that the country takes 30 years to even decide to build an airport it would be handy if they tried to use other airports rather than mixing Navajos with 777's. Would be handy where its mining charter and people just want to get on and get off the machine as quickly as possible.
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Surely there's a way to operate both airport's approaches? Orlando, Florida, where I live now, has Orlando Executive directly under the the flight path for Orlando Int'l's 18R ILS or LOC at only 8.5nm from the MApT. Orlando Int'l has another 3 runways parallel to 18R. Meanwhile Exec's 07 has both ILS & GPS approaches to its 07/25 runway.
Obviously the hills around Brissy are a consideration, but then Orlando Exec has a cluster of masts to 1 or 2 thousand feet high only about 10 nm off the departure end of 07, and the city's high buildings near the approach end.
Obviously the hills around Brissy are a consideration, but then Orlando Exec has a cluster of masts to 1 or 2 thousand feet high only about 10 nm off the departure end of 07, and the city's high buildings near the approach end.
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What on earth were you doing in Orlando Jaba?
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