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Old 29th Oct 2013, 09:52
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Interesting that you can go from this:

What about from the operational perspective from the point of view if the
captain fu*ks up do you think the FO is going to chirp in and have his little
bit to say during a difficult approach? .. Doubt that !
To this:
Its a multi crew environment!
and then wonder why there are such things as Captain only airports!

An FO is a Commander in training isn't he?
Only when he is sitting in the LHS with a TC in the right guiding him through a whole bunch of stuff he probably didn't pay much attention to previously. An F/O is someone who should be developing their command skills by watching how the other person does the job they aspire to. Sometimes that might involve supporting someone into an airport that has been deemed by others to require the person, who has the legal responsibility for the aircraft and its passengers, to manipulate the aircraft.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 12:15
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Not always that case, Lookleft. there are plenty of instances where the FO has more experience than the Captain. Due to the seniority system, when a company goes broke experienced pilots often have to start their careers from scratch. So yeah, the FO will do the professional thing and say "yes Captain" and give support where required.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 23:49
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when a company goes broke experienced pilots often have to start their
careers from scratch
I know that feeling and it is a good point you raise Anthill but the predominant pairing is that the person in the LHS has more experience than the person in the RHS. There seemed to be an assumption in some of the posts that all pilots are of equal experience and that Captain only airports were not necessary and were an insult to F/O's.
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Old 30th Oct 2013, 00:31
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Yes, I understand. I'm building my career now for the 3rd time.

Without doubt, there are some airports/or situations with characteristics that need an experienced hand at the controls. Regardless of the relative experience levels, the cockpit gradient of authority should always slope from Left to Right.
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Sorry to hear that Anthill, hopefully third time lucky!
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Old 30th Oct 2013, 03:49
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Tawau in East Malaysia. The old Airport was around 5,000' long from memory and was a Captain only landing for the 737-200/300/400/500.
It was painted with Boeing short field markers. If you hadn't touched down by them a mandatory go around was required or you'd end up in the shanty houses off the end.....

It was quite a challenge in wet weather, you needed to accurately land firmly on the markers then use full reverse and auto brake. Even then you'd usually use all the LDA....

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Old 30th Oct 2013, 07:06
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Just wish I had some pikkies from those days. No digital stuff back then!!

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Kathmandu is Capt only for most large aircraft.
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