Jabiru Twin redefining Ugly
Ahh, the old argument whether a single is safer than a twin.
Give me two engines any day. Even if not the most reliable, the chances of both snuffing it on the one flight (assuming good fuel and enough of it) are remote.
Even if single engine performance results in a slight descent, I like the idea of one remaining power-plant prolonging flight for longer than is the case when a single has a failure. With a legal full load, the old 150 and 160 hp Apaches did not stay aloft very convincingly on one engine, but for all that did not have too bad a safety record.
Pilots will surely kill themselves in this thing, but Charles Darwin would probably have his way with these people eventually anyway.
Give me two engines any day. Even if not the most reliable, the chances of both snuffing it on the one flight (assuming good fuel and enough of it) are remote.
Even if single engine performance results in a slight descent, I like the idea of one remaining power-plant prolonging flight for longer than is the case when a single has a failure. With a legal full load, the old 150 and 160 hp Apaches did not stay aloft very convincingly on one engine, but for all that did not have too bad a safety record.
Pilots will surely kill themselves in this thing, but Charles Darwin would probably have his way with these people eventually anyway.
I'll join you on the limb Freddie, so long as you ain't pissed on the tree before I climb it ...
I think it looks pretty cool, Jabbies are great trainers and tough as nails, this little puppy may just make a good twin engined trainer
I think it looks pretty cool, Jabbies are great trainers and tough as nails, this little puppy may just make a good twin engined trainer
Not a bad concept, just a prick of a position for the engines in that they look like they would cut off all your forward visibility down and to the sides. Apart from that, might be OK if it's got reasonable performance on one and a bit of range.
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and a bit of range.
It's not the first time two Jabiru engines have been used on the same aircraft.... (there's one of these at Tyabb)
Christ is this now a forum for the most ugliest machine to take flight with 2 donks?
Looks like it's mother got slapped just b4 birth
Man really hasn't ventured far since Wilbur & Orville started this whole mess in the looks department:-)
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Looks like it's mother got slapped just b4 birthMan really hasn't ventured far since Wilbur & Orville started this whole mess in the looks department:-)
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From all accounts, that Dornier was a good machine, let down somewhat by poor (American) engines.
Now, if Jabiru offer a tail-wheel version of their fugly twin, what a great combination for training it would be. Teach pilots proper ground handling and the basics of twin flying all in one package.
Now, if Jabiru offer a tail-wheel version of their fugly twin, what a great combination for training it would be. Teach pilots proper ground handling and the basics of twin flying all in one package.
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How about a fixed gear, fixed pitch twin with gear and pitch controls? Ain't she a beauty! 
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Beauty is...
in the eye of the beholder.
IMO it looks cheeky and spiffy.
Well done those Seff Efriken guys, Rod and others ...who looked well outside the box for a terrific and simple solution to a complex problem.
I admit some concern at the "test flight" style...but there you go, worked well for them.
May the new Jabbajabba prosper.!!
IMO it looks cheeky and spiffy.
Well done those Seff Efriken guys, Rod and others ...who looked well outside the box for a terrific and simple solution to a complex problem.
I admit some concern at the "test flight" style...but there you go, worked well for them.
May the new Jabbajabba prosper.!!
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NOSIGN The Gods must be crazy anyone?
To be offered as an add-on kit for J430's... hmmmmm.... Name another aircraft you can just "bolt" two engines onto, except that modified Lazair from "The Gods must be crazy" perhaps.
Just on a side note here as the word 'ugly' can only be described so much b4 it becomes known fact (see twin Jaba for EG) & the story ends
I wonder who'd be brave (or stupid enuf) to do what young Ryan has done recently (fly round the globe solo) in a Jabiru..................now that person if they survived would be a hero of magnanimous proportions
Ryan's recent result shows that the Yanks can build some pretty reliable brutal donks!:-)
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I wonder who'd be brave (or stupid enuf) to do what young Ryan has done recently (fly round the globe solo) in a Jabiru..................now that person if they survived would be a hero of magnanimous proportions
Ryan's recent result shows that the Yanks can build some pretty reliable brutal donks!:-)
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Worldrounder.
Do it in a Jabiru...why not. Been done in a Victa 115*, AA Trainer 100? and other assorted 'smallies' J Johansson's global jaunts spent huge amounts of time over water,too.
With the Jab, route planning would be the prob re range, I guess. Might have to circumvent the Pacific via Kamkatcha and Alaska.
NO GPS and all the goodies either in the 'good old days" and I can attest that clock, compass, map, ruler and pencil still works.
*If I remember his story correctly, the Victa got shipped Japan to Canada.
And the AA guy Tholstrup? had just got his PPL in it, and off he went !
Bravo all those of adventurous bent.!
Now who will lend me a Jabby...and a bucket of $$$s
With the Jab, route planning would be the prob re range, I guess. Might have to circumvent the Pacific via Kamkatcha and Alaska.
NO GPS and all the goodies either in the 'good old days" and I can attest that clock, compass, map, ruler and pencil still works.
*If I remember his story correctly, the Victa got shipped Japan to Canada.
And the AA guy Tholstrup? had just got his PPL in it, and off he went !
Bravo all those of adventurous bent.!
Now who will lend me a Jabby...and a bucket of $$$s
'aroa' yes it has been done in small planes but what power plant was up front of them? NOT a jaba donk that's 4 sure, that's where the 'bloody brave' part comes in, the jaba airframe is just ugly, doesn't mean it wouldn't make the trip other than perhaps scaring off the natives in far flung countries!
Flying around the world these days is no big deal anymore, there's a long list of 'Earthrounders' seems as long as you have the funding, a slight shift of yr "cheese on yr crackers" & yr off!:-)
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Flying around the world these days is no big deal anymore, there's a long list of 'Earthrounders' seems as long as you have the funding, a slight shift of yr "cheese on yr crackers" & yr off!:-)
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If I remember his story correctly, the Victa got shipped Japan to Canada.
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The look of the Jab twin was growing on me until I re-watched the video and spotted the rear of the engine cowls with the big gaping hole. Looks a bit untidy. Some re-designed streamline engine cowls would go a long way to enhancing the beauty.
Just thinking about $$. A Rotax 914 which is required to power a J430 including required CSU is approximately $40k plus fitting. This kit should retail at around $35k plus labour at a rough guess.
Just thinking about $$. A Rotax 914 which is required to power a J430 including required CSU is approximately $40k plus fitting. This kit should retail at around $35k plus labour at a rough guess.