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What I wouldn't give to use the callsign "Triple Charlie"
I recall listening to an exchange many years ago between Perth ATC and a certain pilot who used to frequent these pages. The aircraft had a three identical letter callsign and he was told over the radio that the "triple *" was no longer acceptable. A brief argument ensued but he wasn't going to win that one on the spot.
Maybe the rule has been changed since?
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Someone from ATC correct me if I am wrong but I don't beleive you can use your callsign in that manner.
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Bigpond email address! Very professional.
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Good point AndrewR... Should also be in the sticky for pilots starting out to not email their prospective bosses with an email like [email protected] or similar.
I'm sure Max gets plenty of emails or attention in it's many forms from wannabees.
Max (CP) is one of the good guys, flew with him years ago top bloke so he'll know a good pilot when he sees one.
Yr right there 'XXX' we Mexicans Sth of the border do what we like,'CCC' is often used by ATC, can't see any harm in the obvious.
As for the smoking comments...........well nobody forces anyone to smoke or gamble & in doing so they give up the right to life as we non smokers know it, their choice.
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Max (CP) is one of the good guys, flew with him years ago top bloke so he'll know a good pilot when he sees one.
Yr right there 'XXX' we Mexicans Sth of the border do what we like,'CCC' is often used by ATC, can't see any harm in the obvious.
As for the smoking comments...........well nobody forces anyone to smoke or gamble & in doing so they give up the right to life as we non smokers know it, their choice.
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Good point AndrewR... Should also be in the sticky for pilots starting out to not email their prospective bosses with an email like [email protected] or similar.
Not so good for companies - if you are representing a company, you should have a company email address. Business email addresses at some generic ISP suggests too small to be bothered arranging a mail server. If you're an electrician, that's probably OK. A company with many employees, not so much.
Once again gentlemen some pertinent points have been raised concerning said operation.
YPJT well spotted. One cannot use their callsign in such a manner!
Abbreviating it such to "Triple Charlie" or such smacks of unprofessionalism and there is more than one reference in the regs that stipulate that this is a big no no. Well done sir! (and what sort of reflection does this have on said operation if their flight crew abbreviate in such a way when communicating to ATC?!)
Avturbound spot on. Who cares what, where or how you fly?!
Mate, if I got the call at 2am to do a private 'charter' to pick up 10 high rolling, chain smoking gamblers from Singapore thats 15 hours of GV time I'm rocking and everyone else isn't
YPJT well spotted. One cannot use their callsign in such a manner!
Abbreviating it such to "Triple Charlie" or such smacks of unprofessionalism and there is more than one reference in the regs that stipulate that this is a big no no. Well done sir! (and what sort of reflection does this have on said operation if their flight crew abbreviate in such a way when communicating to ATC?!)
Avturbound spot on. Who cares what, where or how you fly?!
Mate, if I got the call at 2am to do a private 'charter' to pick up 10 high rolling, chain smoking gamblers from Singapore thats 15 hours of GV time I'm rocking and everyone else isn't
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Geez, I shouldnt say it but, compylot, your style, tone & manner has just successfully outed you as a t\/\/at...
Being a t\/\/at probably excludes you from Crown (as they probably require a t\/\/at free department, as do most others.)
In corporate/business aviation, the flying is the easy bit. Being a part of the solution and not the problem is the hard bit.
Ps; I am not from Crown.
Being a t\/\/at probably excludes you from Crown (as they probably require a t\/\/at free department, as do most others.)
In corporate/business aviation, the flying is the easy bit. Being a part of the solution and not the problem is the hard bit.
Ps; I am not from Crown.
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Yes they use still triple Charlie. I think it's a great callsign.
To all the people whining about it's not professional etc, have you thought about the fact they might have an exemption to use it like 'velocity' or 'go cat'.
I'm happy to be corrected.
To all the people whining about it's not professional etc, have you thought about the fact they might have an exemption to use it like 'velocity' or 'go cat'.
I'm happy to be corrected.
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Compylot, I think you will politely find that there are provisions within all regs for the rules to be changed, rules to allow exceptions to the rules.
"Abbreviating it such to "Triple Charlie" or such smacks of unprofessionalism and there is more than one reference in the regs that stipulate that this is a big no no"
I know a couple of the boys who fly there and know they are very happy and healthy for where they are. They love what they fly, happy with the times at home and for the most part saw some quick command times.
I have sighted the callsign amendment application and approval granted by ASA some years back. However would be more than happy to be corrected. If this has been changed or revoked. But my understanding was when I asked them about it, it was just like "Chopper 1" new helo applying for a callsign, or "Fox1" as someone pointed out. Nothing unprofessional, in fact the opposite, as there is more resonance and less ambiguity in the phonetics of "triple charlie" than "charlie, charlie, charlie".
They operate under Private cat from what I understand and have a good working ethic and team backing each other up. No doubt there will be plenty of people applying, and I wish them all the luck in the world.
Not everyone gets to fly a shiny jet, and the lifestyle is not for everyone (recent outgoing FO going to turboprops), but if it is what you want and you are a mexican at heart why would you not go for this job?
I think the stench created by some high rolling Asian business men smoking 300 dollar cigars is a much more pleasurable experience than some of us whom have worked or commuted in the top end...
Every job has its pros and cons, this one provides you with a jet job working two crew in a highly structured environment with some of the nicest guys whom you want to be stuck on an overnight with...
"Abbreviating it such to "Triple Charlie" or such smacks of unprofessionalism and there is more than one reference in the regs that stipulate that this is a big no no"
I know a couple of the boys who fly there and know they are very happy and healthy for where they are. They love what they fly, happy with the times at home and for the most part saw some quick command times.
I have sighted the callsign amendment application and approval granted by ASA some years back. However would be more than happy to be corrected. If this has been changed or revoked. But my understanding was when I asked them about it, it was just like "Chopper 1" new helo applying for a callsign, or "Fox1" as someone pointed out. Nothing unprofessional, in fact the opposite, as there is more resonance and less ambiguity in the phonetics of "triple charlie" than "charlie, charlie, charlie".
They operate under Private cat from what I understand and have a good working ethic and team backing each other up. No doubt there will be plenty of people applying, and I wish them all the luck in the world.
Not everyone gets to fly a shiny jet, and the lifestyle is not for everyone (recent outgoing FO going to turboprops), but if it is what you want and you are a mexican at heart why would you not go for this job?
I think the stench created by some high rolling Asian business men smoking 300 dollar cigars is a much more pleasurable experience than some of us whom have worked or commuted in the top end...
Every job has its pros and cons, this one provides you with a jet job working two crew in a highly structured environment with some of the nicest guys whom you want to be stuck on an overnight with...
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Technically Charlie Charlie Charlie; practically "Tripple Charlie" is used by many of us ATCs. Try having Jetstar 66 Jetstar 661, Singapore 278 Singapore 238, Makaysian 141 and Malaysian 131 (just to name a few) all on frequency, they're the real problem
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I'd argue it was good practice to not say anything three times in a row over the airwaves... For the same reason that VH-XXX will never be issued to an Australian aircraft... Think about it
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When I was talking to triple Charlie he'd call himself triple Charlie & I'd call him triple Charlie. Sue me, take me to court on that one, lol. I bet I know what the ATC's background was that counselled triple India over the airwaves