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Old 22nd Jun 2013, 04:44
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Angel CASA ATPL flight planning

I am doing my ATPL flight planning theory course with Jeremy UNSW in Sydney soon as I couldn't find other courses,, Nathan is all booked out, I've read some good comments about unsw but all the comments I have read were about Len, I would really appreciate it if anyone who did the flight planning with Jeremy UNSW to give me an idea about it, I really want the course to be helpful as that's my last subject and I don't wanna it up and want to finish it ASAP.

And if anyone could tell me how is the CASA cyber exam now as I heard that it had some issues but its all fixed now and alot are passing it first attempt,, will appreciate your help guys.
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Exam is "fine" I did it last week, 2 1/2 weeks of self study got me a solid first time pass using AFT. Found the answers quite well spaced out, nothing out of left field - even had a spare 2 minutes at the end to compose myself!

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That sounds good thanx for your post mate, I tried to self study it using aft as well but I found a bit difficult so decide to take the unsw course I hope their notes are helpful though
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Jeremy is a good dude and will steer you right as long as you fulfill your end of the bargain and study hard.
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UNSW ftw!

I did the course with AFT and UNSW (with Jeremy)

I can say without a doubt Jeremy is 100x better then AFT. They teach you exactly per the CASA requirements and syllabus.. not just to pass the exam like AFT does.

Jeremy is a legend and knows his stuff! Make sure you listen to everything and do EXACTLY as he says. do not go into the exam having practice exams left to do and do them more then once. You do this you will go into the exam with zero surprises as i did and scored 86% first attempt (and I'm not the brightest on the block)

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Passed last thursday second time with 74%. Self studied with the AFT book and had the Rob Avery condensed notes book and his 5 practice exams book. If theres any tip I can give, for the week before the exam, you should be getting through one full exam a day, and timed aswell. First time when I failed time got the better of me, as I hadnt done the hard yard with the practice exams, the old PPPPPP. After getting all of the practice exams in the AFT book and the Rob Avery ones done under time, I finished with 30minutes left and went back and changed two of my 5 markers.

Unlike many here who suggest to start with the 5 markers, I just did them in order 1-17, I found starting with the easier ones was better as I built myself up. You should be completing the 5 marker question in about 15-20 minutes.Be careful with the way both Rob and Nathan do their working, for example if ISA deviation is +2 there answers will show an increase in fuel flow of 1.0066% although CASA say to round up to +3 and increase fuel flow by 1.01%. Also they interpolate cruise winds, CASA says to pick the nearest flight level and use that unless there are dramatic wind changes and ISA deviations, a little ambiguous but thats CASA for you. Also I cant stress enough RTFQ
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I'm not sure I agree with not doing the 5 markers first. Sure everyone's different, but look at it like this - for every 5 marker you don't have time to dedicate to, you're missing out on a big % of your potential marks! In theory, you could almost only do the 5 markers, get all of them right, maybe a couple of 3 markers, and pass the exam without even attempting the 1 markers.

Time management is the key, and I found that if I was sitting there, ready with pen in hand to go straight to that first 5 marker the moment the page loaded, then I was a lot more comfortable as the clock counted down and I'd finished all the 5 markers.

I'm not entirely up with the changes in accuracy that they've made with the exam, but for example, in all my workings on my fuel plans, I had timings on legs down to the 3rd decimal place, I accounted for every possible knot in speed I could, and I found as many ways to use that calculator as quick as possible.

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Thumbs up Cheers

Thanks guys for the tips, I appreciate it
I am sure that will help me with exam,, and thank youAVTURBOUND
I feel much better now about doing it with Jeremy unsw


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I'm not sure I agree with not doing the 5 markers first
Couldn't agree with you more Morno.

After two hours of flight planning stress the last think I wanted to do was three/four five mark flight plans....

Get em done while you're fresh!
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Do a few 2 markers to warm up then dive into the deep end with the fivers and work backwards.
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J Andrews is a legend - as long as you listen to him and do the work you will have no worries
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Time management is the key

One important point appears to have been overlooked (unless I missed it skimming through the thread ...)

Figure the minutes/mark value of each question and don't go past it ie if you have run out of that value for the question you are doing .. go onto the next one.

Doesn't really matter what order they are done .. that's simply a matter of your own preference .. but stick conservatively to the minutes/mark value and do not be tempted to spend an extra few minutes on a question to get it finished .. go back to it at the end.

The aim is to maximise the total mark .. don't worry about anything else in the exam.
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Joey not a problem mate,

One last thing it helped me GREATLY. I booked a mid day exam, so when i woke up had a good feed. I did two of the 5 markers from the practice exams particularly the Horn Island PNR and a 1 Inop CP. Safe to say the first question I got was a Horn Island PNR 5 marker. Completed it in 5 mins literally as it was very similar to the one I had fresh in my mind in the morning.

Do this to get into the groove early. And my advice 5 markers is what will pass/fail you bottom line. So do them first no doubts.

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I finally got over the line today. Second attempt. I can be a husband and a Dad again after being all consumed by this devil called flight planning.....I hope they are still around when I get home? Never thought I would pass it, but with dedicated study and help/advice from friends and fellow aviators miracles happen. Thanks to all on this thread for your advice. Cheers
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If anyone is able to PM me the Horn Island PNR Practice question, it would be much appreciated.
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Flight from Darwin to Port Moresby, at PEBTA workout out PNR from Horn Island to to Cairns on R204, via Horn Island. From what I can remember you're left with a very small box fuel amount for the Horn Island out and return leg, and I recall working out 19nm, and the possible answers were 25nm, 50nm, 75nm, 100nm and 125nm. A clear cut and relatively easy 5 marker, shouldnt take any longer than 15 mins. Dont take my answer if that comes in the exam as it could very well be different weights and winds. Good luck!
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That's pretty much exactly what I had also, I worked out the right answer, I want to post my answer however I don't want to mislead you as I know people have answered different to me and they got the question right. Same question different fuel etc. I hope you have a good exam mate and achieve your goals.
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Thanks Gents.

Been practicing 1 INOP CPs today using estimated TAS given estimated weight, vice a blanket 420TAS. Man it takes a hell of a lot longer for not much difference in the answer. My plan is to have a look at how closely the answers are spaced and use 420 initially if they are far apart, coming back to it if I have time. If they're close together, I'll do the hard yards first up. Anyway done something similar and had it work?
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That's a recipe for disaster right there.

Do it right the first time.

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Does it really matter how the invidulator carries on beforehand? Be properly prepared and don't cheat and you have nothing to worry about mate...

As far as the new timeline goes, I self studied the CPL subjects, IREX, and all the ATPLs in seven months...while working full time, with a newborn...

It's not hard if you are willing to put in the work...

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