Cattlemen to Shoot Down Drones
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Mmmmmmm this will be interesting , sounds like fun though, will need some way of identifying the buggers , could be a few jabirus and CT2K's in the sights otherwise!
Ballistics will be a worry unless you bring it down and retrieve any rounds ,,,, oh and smile for the camera if its still kicking
Ballistics will be a worry unless you bring it down and retrieve any rounds ,,,, oh and smile for the camera if its still kicking
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Given the massive areas of most of these cattle stations, I'd guess that any surveillance would have to involve a much higher altitude machine than your average garden variety RC / autonomous type amateur device; in which case the wild west idea of "shootin' it down if its on me land" is a wild west fantasy at best.
What would they do if the libbos decided to fly a 172 around? Shoot it down maybe? I hear Jim-Bob is pretty sharp with a sling-shot.....
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What would they do if the libbos decided to fly a 172 around? Shoot it down maybe? I hear Jim-Bob is pretty sharp with a sling-shot.....
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No no no Buzzy, 172's are strictly off limits to the target shooters, as are R22's and R44's. One must not cross the boundary. But I think the Drones may be fair game. It would be good to see fixed speed cameras included on a 'prey list' but I don't think we will see that happen any time soon. I can see potential for a cult following on Poohtube of drones getting taken out, I reckon the next year of two will see some naughty shenanigans for certain.
Now, lets forget AUS for a wee moment, what about the land of Uncle Sam? Is a drone, other than used by military, a breach of civil rights? I would like to see a Texan farmers reaction to an annoying drone! What about the good ol boys of the Louisiana swamps? Surely they would take out a drone and probably try to eat it as well!
Now, lets forget AUS for a wee moment, what about the land of Uncle Sam? Is a drone, other than used by military, a breach of civil rights? I would like to see a Texan farmers reaction to an annoying drone! What about the good ol boys of the Louisiana swamps? Surely they would take out a drone and probably try to eat it as well!
This doesn't add up.
Just how big and expensive is this drone??
The control range of non-military size drones is very limited.
Whilst the control range be souped up for use in the outback, the operator would still have to be within a few kilometers of the craft and on public property to operate it or be threatened with trespass.
Unless the camera is a very powerfull it will have to be flown low to get a good shot, flying low will risk losing the control signal.
Cheap electric multi rotor drones have endurance measured in minutes.
Longer endurance gas powered are only available in conventional configuration (not multi rotor) and require very skilled operators. They are far noiser and not suitable for surveillance work unless they can be flown out of earshot at lets say +3000 feet.
At this height you would need a large drone with a +$200k stabilised camera system to shoot closeup of cattle.
A 24 megapixel still camera is do-able to show building layout and ground conditions.
What is the subject matter precisly?
The history of similar drone operations would suggest that they will crash of their own accord within a few months. No intervention required.
Question is will they have the funds to continue?
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Just how big and expensive is this drone??
The control range of non-military size drones is very limited.
Whilst the control range be souped up for use in the outback, the operator would still have to be within a few kilometers of the craft and on public property to operate it or be threatened with trespass.
Unless the camera is a very powerfull it will have to be flown low to get a good shot, flying low will risk losing the control signal.
Cheap electric multi rotor drones have endurance measured in minutes.
Longer endurance gas powered are only available in conventional configuration (not multi rotor) and require very skilled operators. They are far noiser and not suitable for surveillance work unless they can be flown out of earshot at lets say +3000 feet.
At this height you would need a large drone with a +$200k stabilised camera system to shoot closeup of cattle.
A 24 megapixel still camera is do-able to show building layout and ground conditions.
What is the subject matter precisly?
The history of similar drone operations would suggest that they will crash of their own accord within a few months. No intervention required.
Question is will they have the funds to continue?
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The small drones (<3kg) are quite capable of flying for 15 minutes or more. At 30-40 mph, that gives them a range of 8-10 miles round trip and are very quiet. They can be programmed for flight paths using GPS with very inexpensive equipment. They can also be programmed on loss of signal to fly to a particular altitude and return to home. They are a huge concern for counter-terrorist operations in the US. Even a small one can carry a deadly package of C4. Just program the flightpath, let it go and drive away. They've been operated without permission near roller coasters and almost anywhere else you can think of. You could imagine a passenger on a roller coaster smacking into a drone or an aircraft ingesting one. No wonder farmers are increasingly hesitent to allow anyone on their property.
Some ultra-lefty must have come up with this after a heavy drinking session with his deluded mates in Pyongyang.
Nothing smaller than a ScanEagle will be effective in this role, and they are remarkably easy to jam with off the shelf technology. For anything bigger, you need an AOC and $millions X multiple, or some kind of expensive lease agreement.
Not going to happen.
With regard to shooting them down; after the first half a dozen are destroyed the police will put it on the back-burner (police presence in most of these areas is already overstretched) and the lefties will run out of donations. Game over.
Nothing smaller than a ScanEagle will be effective in this role, and they are remarkably easy to jam with off the shelf technology. For anything bigger, you need an AOC and $millions X multiple, or some kind of expensive lease agreement.
Not going to happen.
With regard to shooting them down; after the first half a dozen are destroyed the police will put it on the back-burner (police presence in most of these areas is already overstretched) and the lefties will run out of donations. Game over.
I think a .17 HMR would do a good job and be undetectable. ,223 waste of good ammunition.
Just throw the remains of the drone over the fence.
Its not you fault if a drone gets in the way of a legal shot or ricochet when you are aiming for a Fox or rabbit.
Be aware that there are very large fines for jamming GPS and rightly so.
I would think that the green targets would be feedlots and piggeries. In any case the Monahs University Cowcare and pig care programs empasize that treating your animals well increases growth rates and profits by about 10%, so only a moron would mistreat animals/
Just throw the remains of the drone over the fence.
Its not you fault if a drone gets in the way of a legal shot or ricochet when you are aiming for a Fox or rabbit.
Be aware that there are very large fines for jamming GPS and rightly so.
I would think that the green targets would be feedlots and piggeries. In any case the Monahs University Cowcare and pig care programs empasize that treating your animals well increases growth rates and profits by about 10%, so only a moron would mistreat animals/
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There's more than one way to skin a drone. These flying contraptions like all remote devices are controlled thru a particular channel of the radio wave spectrum. Someone will find out what freq they are controlled on & make something to jam it then it will be open drone hunting season with a specific broad band freq swamp TX:-)
Foxes are about $10 bucks a head what's a drone worth?
I'm into radio controlled toy planes/heli's & I would love the chance to chase one of these things around the sky
Bring it on am sure the farmers would love to shoot something like an 'aerial inspector'!:-)
Foxes are about $10 bucks a head what's a drone worth?
I'm into radio controlled toy planes/heli's & I would love the chance to chase one of these things around the sky
Bring it on am sure the farmers would love to shoot something like an 'aerial inspector'!:-)
Crows seem smart , never can see one when you got the gun handy .
Two of you walk towards the hen house, crows all fly away, two of you enter the hen house, crows observe, one of you leave the hen house, crows think, "Goody, goody, gumdrops!"
Crows fly back down towards henhouse..." Oh FARRRKKK!!!"
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US manufacturer brings civilian anti-drone ammo to market
12 ga - 3" Uranium Drone Load - Low Recoil - 1 3/8 oz - Tacnition - 5 Rounds
12 ga - 3" Uranium Drone Load - 1 3/8 oz - Tacnition - 5 Rounds
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$3.55 per round
Quick Overview
A first of its kind ammunition to help protect you and your family from unwanted surveillance.
Details
Big Brother is watching, and with modern technology, if Big Brother can see it, he can turn it into a giant smoking crater with just the press of a button. Even your secret remote wilderness bunker is no match for today’s military drones. In partnership with Tacnition Ammo, Lucky Gunner is happy to introduce a new way for you to fight back against the All Seeing Eye with our new anti-drone shotgun loads.
Years of research and development have gone into these highly effective 12 gauge shells that can turn even Joe Biden’s double barrel shotgun into an instant anti-aircraft platform. Specially formulated propellant is capable of launching 9 pellets of depleted uranium rounds up to 1 km straight up into the air. With accurate shot placement, this armor piercing buckshot will disable vital systems on modern military drones. At minimum, the force of impact will disable navigation systems, but in over 60% of our field tests, the drones were incapable of remaining airborne after contact with our Anti-Drone Loads.
NOTE: Drone Loads are intended for entertainment use only and not intended to be used in any manner not in accordance with federal and local laws. Lucky Gunner assumes no responsibility for any illegal activity involving Tacnition Drone Ammo.
Additional Information
Manufacturer Tacnition
Condition new
Bullet Weight 1-3/8 oz
Bullet Type Depleted Uranium Buckshot
Ammo Casing Not Applicable
Quantity 5
Ammo Caliber 12 Gauge
Manufacturer SKU 4-1-2013
Primer Type Not Applicable
Shell Length 3"
Muzzle Velocity (fps) No
Muzzle Energy (ft lbs) No
Cost Per Round $3.55 per round
12 ga - 3" Uranium Drone Load - Low Recoil - 1 3/8 oz - Tacnition - 5 Rounds
12 ga - 3" Uranium Drone Load - 1 3/8 oz - Tacnition - 5 Rounds
Quantity:270
$17.76
$3.55 per round
Quick Overview
A first of its kind ammunition to help protect you and your family from unwanted surveillance.
Details
Big Brother is watching, and with modern technology, if Big Brother can see it, he can turn it into a giant smoking crater with just the press of a button. Even your secret remote wilderness bunker is no match for today’s military drones. In partnership with Tacnition Ammo, Lucky Gunner is happy to introduce a new way for you to fight back against the All Seeing Eye with our new anti-drone shotgun loads.
Years of research and development have gone into these highly effective 12 gauge shells that can turn even Joe Biden’s double barrel shotgun into an instant anti-aircraft platform. Specially formulated propellant is capable of launching 9 pellets of depleted uranium rounds up to 1 km straight up into the air. With accurate shot placement, this armor piercing buckshot will disable vital systems on modern military drones. At minimum, the force of impact will disable navigation systems, but in over 60% of our field tests, the drones were incapable of remaining airborne after contact with our Anti-Drone Loads.
NOTE: Drone Loads are intended for entertainment use only and not intended to be used in any manner not in accordance with federal and local laws. Lucky Gunner assumes no responsibility for any illegal activity involving Tacnition Drone Ammo.
Additional Information
Manufacturer Tacnition
Condition new
Bullet Weight 1-3/8 oz
Bullet Type Depleted Uranium Buckshot
Ammo Casing Not Applicable
Quantity 5
Ammo Caliber 12 Gauge
Manufacturer SKU 4-1-2013
Primer Type Not Applicable
Shell Length 3"
Muzzle Velocity (fps) No
Muzzle Energy (ft lbs) No
Cost Per Round $3.55 per round
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capable of launching 9 pellets of depleted uranium rounds up to 1 km straight up into the air
D_F
Anyone in control of a UAV,('drone'), requires PPL theory and possibly an ASIC - anyway, enough that CASA knows all the 'legal' operators. So, presumably the Greens/PETA/whoever will be doing this legally which means their operators will be identifiable.
Enter CAR 157........ not below 500ft over anyones' property without written permission. Without this, and a complaint to CASA should see them grounded. I'd say that anyone with any intensive animal production facility should place a public notice in the Australian (?), to the effect that no low flying permissions exist or will be given over the property, and that frequent shooting may take place over said property for the purpose of pest control and that this notice is solely for the protection of the public.
happy days,
Enter CAR 157........ not below 500ft over anyones' property without written permission. Without this, and a complaint to CASA should see them grounded. I'd say that anyone with any intensive animal production facility should place a public notice in the Australian (?), to the effect that no low flying permissions exist or will be given over the property, and that frequent shooting may take place over said property for the purpose of pest control and that this notice is solely for the protection of the public.
happy days,