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I didn't read your comment in the manner you describe. It was a good response for me. I had expected that the strip wouldnt be particularly unusual but a prang or too tends to make a bloke ask the question.
Thanks for the response.
Tony
I didn't read your comment in the manner you describe. It was a good response for me. I had expected that the strip wouldnt be particularly unusual but a prang or too tends to make a bloke ask the question.
Thanks for the response.
Tony
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unless you have a full load and no wind
Used it many times on flights up from Slowbart for the BOM on trips to check the AWIS at Whitemark and rain reporters all over the Furneaux Group. Great days. Go for a dip at Palana near Killiecrankie in mid- winter semi tropical! The odd run across to Deal Island was always a bonus . .. now there was a strip guaranteed to keep you on your toes.
In the Wilderness Air flight office in Strahan in the mid 80s there was a big poster size colour blowup pic on the wall of one of the partners that founded the company (Outback Air to be precise) On an earlier occasion he had flown over to Killiecrankie from Moorabbin in something like an Archer or a Warrior. His 'portrait' with the pranged plane in the shrubbery behind him had him with a big cheesy grin on his dial with both arms outstretched in the style of those wartime shots of RAF types standing in front of their disasters, as much as to say -
ALONE. . . I DID IT!
In the Wilderness Air flight office in Strahan in the mid 80s there was a big poster size colour blowup pic on the wall of one of the partners that founded the company (Outback Air to be precise) On an earlier occasion he had flown over to Killiecrankie from Moorabbin in something like an Archer or a Warrior. His 'portrait' with the pranged plane in the shrubbery behind him had him with a big cheesy grin on his dial with both arms outstretched in the style of those wartime shots of RAF types standing in front of their disasters, as much as to say -
ALONE. . . I DID IT!
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Killiecrankie is beautiful place, and wonderful people.
It's a long time since I flew there as I've been overseas for over 20 years.
Killiecrankie is notorious for extremely strong cross winds, the ridge to
the side of the strip while creating a shield, creates a lot of turbulence and the winds can change viciously or be blowing a gale as
Bass Straight is famous for.
Expect cross winds, phone before hand, and get the weather conditions
first hand.
I don't know if they monitor a radio but the should work. If
you are going there, odds are they will be picking you up.
It's a magic place and I can't wait to go stay there again for a few days.
It's a long time since I flew there as I've been overseas for over 20 years.
Killiecrankie is notorious for extremely strong cross winds, the ridge to
the side of the strip while creating a shield, creates a lot of turbulence and the winds can change viciously or be blowing a gale as
Bass Straight is famous for.
Expect cross winds, phone before hand, and get the weather conditions
first hand.
I don't know if they monitor a radio but the should work. If
you are going there, odds are they will be picking you up.
It's a magic place and I can't wait to go stay there again for a few days.
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Not much speculation on what actually happened yet. A down wind landing was mentioned but on that morning there seemed to be a good brisk easterly around Flinders. Aborted take off maybe ?
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Well if it was a tail wind landing he must have landed extremely short as he was on the eastern end. Still only assuming that the wind was the same direction as it was not that long after the event.
I've seen results similar to this in a number of cases where the pilot has arrived too fast or with tail wind. They try to force the aircraft on the ground with significant forward control, it rides up on the nose-wheel which has two effects, one, braking becomes ineffective and two, directional control is lost. Eventually if you continue this way the nose-wheel simply gives up and breaks off and the aircraft ends up where-ever it wants to go.
The simple way to avoid it is to set a landing aim point and fly an accurate approach speed. The whole approach ensure the aim point and airspeed are maintained with an appropriate flight path, if anything gets out of tolerance go-round and think about what went wrong.
Never push forward on the control to force the aircraft to land. In a lot of light aircraft this just results in all the weight on the nose-wheel and the mains carrying very little or worse still airborne resulting in no brakes and no steering. With soft dirt or sand fields this is even more important. If the aircraft is experiencing significant balloon or float then it has way too much airspeed and a go-round should be safe.
There is always the possibility of strong windshear around Flinders I due to the terrain.
The field in question is over 1000m (book says 1400m) so should easily be able to accommodate a max weight Archer.
The simple way to avoid it is to set a landing aim point and fly an accurate approach speed. The whole approach ensure the aim point and airspeed are maintained with an appropriate flight path, if anything gets out of tolerance go-round and think about what went wrong.
Never push forward on the control to force the aircraft to land. In a lot of light aircraft this just results in all the weight on the nose-wheel and the mains carrying very little or worse still airborne resulting in no brakes and no steering. With soft dirt or sand fields this is even more important. If the aircraft is experiencing significant balloon or float then it has way too much airspeed and a go-round should be safe.
There is always the possibility of strong windshear around Flinders I due to the terrain.
The field in question is over 1000m (book says 1400m) so should easily be able to accommodate a max weight Archer.
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For what it's worth and to round out the thread, I took the pretty fully loaded Saratoga into and out of Killiecrankie last week and can report that the strip is in excellent condition, having been recently gravelled, and it is certainly all of the 1400 metres. The big winds seem to be westerly and, although we found some turbulence on final, I didn't find it particularly challenging (and I am no master).
The word from the locals about the incident was pretty much as described by 43inches.
I can highly recommend it as a destination for those interested in simple camping next to a beautiful beach with very few tourists, super friendly locals, and plenty of nice walking to be done. Campsite is about a 2.5 km walk from the strip but I reckon you'd be unluckly not to get a ride - we did.
The only other camper when we were there between Christmas and New Year was a bloke who had paddled his sea-kayak in from Wilsons Prom.
And they called me mad for flying overwater in a single!
The word from the locals about the incident was pretty much as described by 43inches.
I can highly recommend it as a destination for those interested in simple camping next to a beautiful beach with very few tourists, super friendly locals, and plenty of nice walking to be done. Campsite is about a 2.5 km walk from the strip but I reckon you'd be unluckly not to get a ride - we did.
The only other camper when we were there between Christmas and New Year was a bloke who had paddled his sea-kayak in from Wilsons Prom.
And they called me mad for flying overwater in a single!
