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Old 8th Dec 2012, 02:37
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Naips clock - gone?

Where has the naips UTC clock gone ? I went to set my watch of the airservices website today and I can't find it.
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 03:22
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Log in, go to other services - time zone converter. UTC displayed at the top.
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Zulu Time
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Thanks shagpile that one works well for my purposes.

The one on the asa website doesn't refresh and has no display of second, no good for aviation use, according to the big book of rules we have to be accurate to 30 seconds.
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I usually sync my watch to the clock on the FMS... or your GPS if you don't have an FMS.
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The old NAIPS program (Naips for Windows), had the UTC time and date displayed in the bottom right corner of the window.

That was very handy when reading NOTAMS and trying to assess when/whether they applied to your flight.

With the new NIS interface however, there is no clock. ASA, please bring back the UTC clock (to show the UTC date as well as the time).

Thanks.
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Actually ASA, just bring back the old NAIPS full stop. Why do I have to log in to get the weather and ATIS? What utter utter rubbish.

If you are not able to revert to the older and better NAIPS, at least provide a direct link outside of the login process for a direct link/bookmark to the weather (like the AIS MET SYSTEM). This is actually pretty important for when you have a bad internet connect and just need to get the weather using minimum bandwidth.

It is now easier to get Australia's weather from the US (albeit without the ATIS). How is this a step forward for safety?


And bring back the live utc time!
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Just set all the work computers' time zones to UTC. The clock is in the corner of the screen
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I found the old Naips UTC time used the seconds from your computer clock anyway!

Set it from your GPS!
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 08:27
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Re your query Mr Blueloo, why do you have to 'log in'..??

Would it / could it be that, the intention is to introduce a pricing regime, so you have to log in to have a billing address..??

Just speculating is all, but a pricing regime was suggested many years ago,
To 'discourage participation', for pilots wishing to use the radio for pre flight info and flight plan submission from a location where a phone was 'reasonably available'.

.??
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Perhaps, but depending on where you are right now, mainland Australia alone could be UTC+11, UTC+10, UTC+10:30, UTC+9:30 or UTC+8. That's five different time zones, let alone the remote islands. And when you're moving regularly between them all, it's easy to get confused.
It doesn't hurt to have it available and prominently displayed.

Also, knowing the conversion does not in any way help you synchronise your watch to the correct time.
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 13:09
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You had to log in to NAIPS as well, the NIS is no different in that respect.
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 23:21
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Log in to NIS and look at the very first page presented....

Home
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09-Dec-12 0015 UTC

Welcome to NAIPS

Note 1. ICAO has changed Flight...
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 23:27
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Lasiorhinus,

May I suggest...

Goto the NIS time conversion page or the NIS Home page,
Set your timepiece to 1 min ahead of the displayed time,
Refresh the NIS page a couple of times till the min changes,
When the NIS min = Timepiece min, start your timepiece.
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 23:55
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Slugfest, none of your methods ensure that you are within 30 seconds of the displayed minute. The lack of a real-time clock is a poor omission. No better time than pre-flight briefing stage to check such things and now it has been made harder for people.
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 00:03
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Why not just use your computer clock?
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 00:20
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Capt. Nomad,

Have you tired this? I can get my watch to well within the 30sec depending on the frequency of refresh of the NIS displayed time.

For example, if refreshed every ten secs, the most I can be out is <10sec.

If refreshed at 20 sec interval then that is still <30sec.
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Yes I miss that UTC clock , I used to sync my watch with it and it was handy while reviewing briefing material.
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 20:32
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My smartphone keeps pretty good time.

One clock on local time and another on home time and another on Zulu.

Just checked to be 100% sure and the time hack is spot on the second.

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Old 10th Dec 2012, 04:41
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I've always thought that another thing telling you the time is the last thing you need. The computer you log into NAIPS from has a clock accurate to the second (assuming you have it set to synchronise with a time server), your mobile phone has a clock accurate to the second, if you have an iPad or similar device it has a clock accurate to the second, the GPS in the aircraft has a clock accurate to the second. Why the **** do you need yet another piece of software to tell you the time, can you really not make do with the other 5 time pieces at your disposal?
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