Locking aircraft?
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The DH82 hd an "Armstrong" starter from memory, however all that aside;
If a cockpit cover is used, it must have on the inside, "Remove before flight".
True story.
If a cover is fitted, it must have "aircraft anti-theft device fitted" patch (available from DOT for free).
True story.
You poor Aussies, your security requirements are a bit over the top.
Even in the land of the free where all this security BS started the security requirements are no where near as stupid as you guys have to put up with.
Australia, the land that has perfected bureaucratic nonsense!!!!!!
Thankfully if ever I fly a ZK registered aircraft to Aussie it doesn't apply to that aircraft. I can tell the nice DOTARS people where to go and how to get there.
Even in the land of the free where all this security BS started the security requirements are no where near as stupid as you guys have to put up with.
Australia, the land that has perfected bureaucratic nonsense!!!!!!
Thankfully if ever I fly a ZK registered aircraft to Aussie it doesn't apply to that aircraft. I can tell the nice DOTARS people where to go and how to get there.
So why are you all trying to work over here?
Don't think you'll get away with that when it comes to ASICs. Now aren't they supposed to mean we don't need to lock aircraft?
Thankfully if ever I fly a ZK registered aircraft to Aussie it doesn't apply to that aircraft. I can tell the nice DOTARS people where to go and how to get there.
Last edited by MakeItHappenCaptain; 7th Dec 2012 at 03:56.
why are you all trying to work over here?
Don't think you'll get away with that when it comes to ASICs.
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I'd love to see that one... A Kiwi with a big mouth shoot it off to a DOTRS officer....now I wonder who would come off second best... The guy that could deny you access to your aircraft... Or the Kiwi with his chest all puffed out and walking with a big land of the long white cloud swagger!! Bahahahahha...
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At the end of the day .............. locks are for the honest people.
As others have mentioned the requirement states for the prevention of starting - the only way for this to effectively occur is to disable it somehow.
Who are we concerned about here
As others have mentioned the requirement states for the prevention of starting - the only way for this to effectively occur is to disable it somehow.
Who are we concerned about here
I do believe an ASIC not required either for foreign pilots flying foreign reg A/C.
Putting up with the bureaucrap still marginally beats needing a C150 "endorsement".
locking aeroplanes
Our DH89 had a sign on the entry door which read,
This aeroplane is imobile, The elastic band has been removed.
Casa were happy as the particular field officer had a sense of humour and he knew the archane proceedures we had to use to get the darn thing started at all.
This aeroplane is imobile, The elastic band has been removed.
Casa were happy as the particular field officer had a sense of humour and he knew the archane proceedures we had to use to get the darn thing started at all.
Wouldn't a chain & padlock to a tie down meet the requirements? Damned convenient if you already use chains to tie down the plane. Just add a padlock to it.
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Saw a Baron up at longreach with one of those wheel lock thingies on the nose wheel.
Big sign in the window "security device fitted to this aircraft"
and underneath " Key to security device in glove box"
Big sign in the window "security device fitted to this aircraft"
and underneath " Key to security device in glove box"
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OK I'm still not 100% sure whether you need 2 locks but I went and bought a $20 padlock for the throttle anyway:
You get the choice between mixture full-lean and idle, or mixture full rich and full power.
What a terrorist needs to do to steal my plane:
- Get a license [tailwheel endorsement, constant speed]
- Cut the canopy lock.
- Drag the aircraft out onto the main runway, lined up.
- Set mixture-full rich, throttle full open [this padlock too hard to break easily]
- Hot-wire the starter. No impulse couplings = no hand start...not that you would do that at full throttle anyway (terrorists aren't that stupid)
- Call ready and get a takeoff clearance *before* starting [this is important or you'll get a fine, with strict liability and all these days].
- Start the engine and keep her straight down the runway with 290hp. That's right rudder timmy terrorist - look out the front and let your feet do the work.
You get the choice between mixture full-lean and idle, or mixture full rich and full power.
What a terrorist needs to do to steal my plane:
- Get a license [tailwheel endorsement, constant speed]
- Cut the canopy lock.
- Drag the aircraft out onto the main runway, lined up.
- Set mixture-full rich, throttle full open [this padlock too hard to break easily]
- Hot-wire the starter. No impulse couplings = no hand start...not that you would do that at full throttle anyway (terrorists aren't that stupid)
- Call ready and get a takeoff clearance *before* starting [this is important or you'll get a fine, with strict liability and all these days].
- Start the engine and keep her straight down the runway with 290hp. That's right rudder timmy terrorist - look out the front and let your feet do the work.
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Ah, F1 Rocket - can't claim building it though. Only a new acquisition a couple of weeks ago. IO540 by Aerosport power with a few tweaks to make it go faster. Terrorists beware the fuel bill.
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I hide a key on the oil dipstick. Done so for 47 years and never had an aeroplane pinched.
I guess that's illegal today?
I guess that's illegal today?
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When I built my aircraft I fitted central locking with remote and a car alarm (didn't fit an immobilizer in case it went wrong mid flight!!)
It was seriously one of the best features of the aircraft particularly given that it had three doors. The alarm was also handy. It never ceased to amaze me how many people would always try and open the door of my aircraft for a closer look. Very bad practice and quite disappointing that people would do this. Look wih your eyes and not with your hands I say. It also had a motion sensor hooked to the strobes, nav and landing lights. Very handy, there's nothing worse than having to use keys to unlock multiple doors. I used to enjoy setting off the warning chirps remotely as people lift up their hands for the token check of the instruments through their hand made looking-glass.
It was seriously one of the best features of the aircraft particularly given that it had three doors. The alarm was also handy. It never ceased to amaze me how many people would always try and open the door of my aircraft for a closer look. Very bad practice and quite disappointing that people would do this. Look wih your eyes and not with your hands I say. It also had a motion sensor hooked to the strobes, nav and landing lights. Very handy, there's nothing worse than having to use keys to unlock multiple doors. I used to enjoy setting off the warning chirps remotely as people lift up their hands for the token check of the instruments through their hand made looking-glass.
