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This is a RA-Aus matter that has to be resolved, from my information, by them.
How would you like to manage over ten thousand pilots, close to five thousand aircraft and more schools than CASA has to deal with on a shoe-string $2M a year member paid budget while your unlimited tax dollars are doing the same for VH jocks?
The LSA issue is purely one of CASA's making. They could have just said they accepted the ASTM standard and allow these aircraft to be flown at 600kg but nothing else changes in paperwork and procedures and be done with it. Instead, they made a parallel path with different rules for different aircraft within RA-Aus and the overloaded system cracked.
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Let me rephrase that.
CASA has created a problem, (perhaps with LSA aircraft), I understand, which come under the RA-Aus umberella and RA-Aus are forced to deal with it using their own time and Members money.
Perhaps SAAA would like to deal with it?
(They may pick up the scraps if it isn't sorted. Makes one wonder about the new DL Medical and how it may be "evolved" to enscapsulate it, (the) "problem").
I believe however, it will be sorted despite an ex CASA employee, plus ex, (should have been), confidentiality bound, but now vested interested, plus now, fully paid up members, of the CASA club.
If anybody doesn't understand what's wrong with aviation in Australia, look at Hansard and The Senate. Or check some other threads on PPRune.
Aviation is it's own worst enemy in Australia.
CASA has created a problem, (perhaps with LSA aircraft), I understand, which come under the RA-Aus umberella and RA-Aus are forced to deal with it using their own time and Members money.
Perhaps SAAA would like to deal with it?
(They may pick up the scraps if it isn't sorted. Makes one wonder about the new DL Medical and how it may be "evolved" to enscapsulate it, (the) "problem").
I believe however, it will be sorted despite an ex CASA employee, plus ex, (should have been), confidentiality bound, but now vested interested, plus now, fully paid up members, of the CASA club.
If anybody doesn't understand what's wrong with aviation in Australia, look at Hansard and The Senate. Or check some other threads on PPRune.
Aviation is it's own worst enemy in Australia.
Instead, they made a parallel path with different rules
That's how they seem to do everything though. Aircraft Flight Manuals, CASA schedule 5, all this, Class D airspace, NIght VFR ratings etc etc etc...
Not keen on the whole RAA thing. You can really see the difference in standards when you have an RAA trained person want to convert to GA.
That's how they seem to do everything though. Aircraft Flight Manuals, CASA schedule 5, all this, Class D airspace, NIght VFR ratings etc etc etc...
Not keen on the whole RAA thing. You can really see the difference in standards when you have an RAA trained person want to convert to GA.
Not keen on the whole RAA thing. You can really see the difference in standards when you have an RAA trained person want to convert to GA.
So your point is???????
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CPLs are of higher standards then PPLs too. And those CPLs the a MECIR are even better. Where does it end?
Safe enough is safe enough. Let's go flying!
Safe enough is safe enough. Let's go flying!
There will always be a safer option, but in no way does that mean that the current one is dangerous. If it's safe then whats the issue?
Also, remember that an RAA Cert doesn't allow you to do certain things (controlled airspace, >2 seaters etc etc) that a CASA licence does so the training standards might be lower but they are totally adequate for the flying that will be done by a RAA pilot.
I'm a big fan of RA-Aus because it allows me to fly out of the rural airports that I like without having to produce $10K for a PPL that will allow me to fly in places and aircraft that I don't want to while having to maintain an OTT medical and put up with CASAs constant bull
RAA needs support, without it flying for fun would be out of reach of many.
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I think the problem is not that the training is not suitable... but that it is not of any consistent standard across Ra-Aus... . Schools have sprung up all over... and while they may not be making heaps of $$$ they were set up to do so... Ra-Aus was "contracted" to oversee it all and put safety systems in place to ensure that the highest possible (but obviously lower than PPL) standard was maintained. There are some great Ra-Aus flying schools... the one thing they all have is great CFIs/Instructors IMO. Then there is the other side of the coin where any old joe can finance his own flying by starting a school on the side... or buying an LSA and putting it online at a flying school...
From personal experience I see it all as being a more than a bit "hit and miss'... How the ex-Ra-Aus personal now at CASA couldn't have known this 4 years ago is beyond me...
Lets hope it can be sorted... (see I will remain positive)
From personal experience I see it all as being a more than a bit "hit and miss'... How the ex-Ra-Aus personal now at CASA couldn't have known this 4 years ago is beyond me...
Lets hope it can be sorted... (see I will remain positive)
