RQAC JGR mayday at Kagaru
RQAC JGR mayday at Kagaru
...that'll buff out!
Hat off to the driver, you're a lucky lucky boy/girl.
Indeed, T9.
Perhaps the aircraft was in the course of a perfectly normal landing roll, but then a Coke ™ bottle loomed in the windscreen, causing catastrophic failure?
Perhaps the aircraft was in the course of a perfectly normal landing roll, but then a Coke ™ bottle loomed in the windscreen, causing catastrophic failure?
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Golly I'd love so see the impact in slow motion!
Here you go Dr, in the absence of Planky.
Assuming that someone didn't tamper with the wreckage... and it looks like the wing was lifted over to get the pilot out, however that seems strange as fuel would probably leak out.
Prop looks like it was potentially delivering power at impact.
It didn't roll over (from rear to front).
It didn't plough in nose first.
It looks like it belly flopped with minor forward speed.
Either way, a lucky boy or girl indeed!
But still, I'm gonna need the TAF for a full analysis and de-brief
Someone also please post a picture of the aircraft from airliners . net when it was in flying condition so we can all comment on that.
Here you go Dr, in the absence of Planky.
Assuming that someone didn't tamper with the wreckage... and it looks like the wing was lifted over to get the pilot out, however that seems strange as fuel would probably leak out.
Prop looks like it was potentially delivering power at impact.
It didn't roll over (from rear to front).
It didn't plough in nose first.
It looks like it belly flopped with minor forward speed.
Either way, a lucky boy or girl indeed!
But still, I'm gonna need the TAF for a full analysis and de-brief
Someone also please post a picture of the aircraft from airliners . net when it was in flying condition so we can all comment on that.
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Never mind, I found it myself:
From Airliners.net
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1419453.jpg
From Airliners.net
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1419453.jpg
I dunno XXX, from having a quick look at the undercarriage it seems to have moved in a rather upward fashion rather than backwards suggesting something akin to an Aircraft Bellyflop! This may explain the wings buckling at the root from the downward stress created by the fuel in the tanks.
Also in your airlines photo it CLEARLY has wheel fairings attached which appear to be missing and presumably pilfered, so god knows what other vital pieces of evidence have been removed...
Also in your airlines photo it CLEARLY has wheel fairings attached which appear to be missing and presumably pilfered, so god knows what other vital pieces of evidence have been removed...
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Prop looks like it was potentially delivering power at impact.
Unlikely.
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The usually only bend forwards under high power settings if that's what you are referring to MIHC.... Low power at a guess.
Yeah, it's got insurance written all over it ! (Perhaps because the insurance company now owns it :-) )
Yeah, it's got insurance written all over it ! (Perhaps because the insurance company now owns it :-) )
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You don't bend it like that and walk away everyday.
Skill, or luck who knows.
Speaking to planky it looks like a classic case of a stall, wing drop and strike then belly flop.
Lack of spilling fuel from ruptured upside down tank and subsequent post impact fire says one thing to me - A very lucky Pilot!!
Skill, or luck who knows.
Speaking to planky it looks like a classic case of a stall, wing drop and strike then belly flop.
Lack of spilling fuel from ruptured upside down tank and subsequent post impact fire says one thing to me - A very lucky Pilot!!
Very glad he survived, but how the hell do you make such a mess of it in such a wide open space?! I don't really care about the aircraft being smashed to bits, but surely self-preservation instincts would prevent you from inducing such a vertical approach trajectory?! 
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Servo, I think you missed the sarcasm emoticon regarding the insurance comments, it looks to be a throw-away line. There's no way in hell that anyone would go that far for an insurance job! and I really don't think that someone hiring from RQ would be thinking about their insurance policy.
Good point Trojan. It looks like there was a fair share of vertical speed involved but not a ridiculous amount otherwise it may have flattened more. Surely you couldn't get that much damage from flaring too high could you and belly flopping slightly nose first? I assume if it was spinning the wing might have bent backwards more. Would be intersting to see the final resting place of the port wing if in fact it has been moved post accident.
Good point Trojan. It looks like there was a fair share of vertical speed involved but not a ridiculous amount otherwise it may have flattened more. Surely you couldn't get that much damage from flaring too high could you and belly flopping slightly nose first? I assume if it was spinning the wing might have bent backwards more. Would be intersting to see the final resting place of the port wing if in fact it has been moved post accident.
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My suspicion is that the port wing was in a similar situation to the starboard one and that the rescue crew, using a hydraulic cutter, sliced the strut and any other impeding bits to be able to retrieve the pilot who, according to the links, was injured.
Looks like a stall from sufficient height to "pancake" the airframe. Its a bit hard to see but it looks as though there may not have been any flaps out but stand to be corrected on that. Possibility (AND ONLY THAT) is an engine failure/problem that was not well dealt with and, perhaps, engine, fuel and master all switched off before contact with the ground.
Looks like a stall from sufficient height to "pancake" the airframe. Its a bit hard to see but it looks as though there may not have been any flaps out but stand to be corrected on that. Possibility (AND ONLY THAT) is an engine failure/problem that was not well dealt with and, perhaps, engine, fuel and master all switched off before contact with the ground.
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I have a photo in m email that I am unable to post right now that shows it from the rear with rescue crews at work, shows more clearly that cutting took place. Looking at it more closely again as posted above, a lot of cutting has taken place to get him out....
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