"Light" aircraft crashes near Bendigo
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Like the fcuking dickywhackers that wanted to introduce airbags on motorbikes in the 90's?
Just one example... there are many...
Armored Air Jackets Motorcycle jacket with airbag protection!
Personally I would prefer to see a little more though going in to making the "survival cell" in aircraft stronger, very few people will be prepared to wear a helmet for routine flying... this accident was a routine flight until the last few seconds.
It's hard enough getting people to wear life jackets for over-water flights...
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Personally I would prefer to see a little more thought going in to making the "survival cell" in aircraft stronger
I agree it's a great idea for the future but I can't see the GA fleet being turned over at a rate that's going to see the average club pilot being able to sign out a significantly safer aircraft inside the next 25 years.
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A new research investigation has found
that more than 40 per cent of aviation
wirestrikes that occur in Australia
were not reported to the ATSB. This
investigation commenced following
anecdotal information from stakeholders
who were aware of more wirestrikes
than had been reported.
Wirestrikes pose an on-going danger
to Australian aviators. They can happen
to any low-flying aircraft involved in any
operation, such as aerial agricultural,
other aerial work, recreational or scenic
flights. Intrigued by the possibility that
this lack of reporting was common,
the ATSB reached out to electricity
distribution companies, asking for
information. And the electricity
companies delivered.
Before this investigation, 166 wirestrikes
were reported to the ATSB between
July 2003 and June 2011. The new data
from the electricity companies, however,
revealed another 101 occurrences that
had not been reported to the ATSB. At
least 40 percent of the wirestrikes in
Australia had never been formally tallied.
‘And it’s possible that the incidence
of wirestrikes may actually be even
higher,’ said Dr Godley, the ATSB’s
Manager of Research Investigations
and Data Analysis. ‘There are several
reasons for us to believe that. Firstly,
a major telecommunications company
did not have a single repository of this
information to be able to provide the
ATSB with information of wirestrikes on
its network. In addition, not all wirestrikes
result in a broken wire or interrupted
power supply, and so are not recorded
by electricity distribution companies.
And then there’s the fact that disused
overhead wires are not tracked, so
when they are damaged by an aircraft,
electricity companies aren’t notified.
Finally, there are many private power
lines out there, and we don’t have any
figures for them.’’
‘We’re urging pilots, and all aviation
stakeholders, to report any wirestrike to
the ATSB even if there’s no damage to
the aircraft and/or no injuries. There may
not even be any damage to the wires.
But the more we know, the better we
can do our job, which is to make flying in
Australia safer.’
The report Underreporting of Aviation
Wirestrikes is available on the ATSB
website at Australian Transport Safety Bureau Homepage
Notifications of safety related events can
be made via the toll free number
1800 011 034 (available 24/7) or via the
ATSB website.
Only a 2 months after this from ATSB
that more than 40 per cent of aviation
wirestrikes that occur in Australia
were not reported to the ATSB. This
investigation commenced following
anecdotal information from stakeholders
who were aware of more wirestrikes
than had been reported.
Wirestrikes pose an on-going danger
to Australian aviators. They can happen
to any low-flying aircraft involved in any
operation, such as aerial agricultural,
other aerial work, recreational or scenic
flights. Intrigued by the possibility that
this lack of reporting was common,
the ATSB reached out to electricity
distribution companies, asking for
information. And the electricity
companies delivered.
Before this investigation, 166 wirestrikes
were reported to the ATSB between
July 2003 and June 2011. The new data
from the electricity companies, however,
revealed another 101 occurrences that
had not been reported to the ATSB. At
least 40 percent of the wirestrikes in
Australia had never been formally tallied.
‘And it’s possible that the incidence
of wirestrikes may actually be even
higher,’ said Dr Godley, the ATSB’s
Manager of Research Investigations
and Data Analysis. ‘There are several
reasons for us to believe that. Firstly,
a major telecommunications company
did not have a single repository of this
information to be able to provide the
ATSB with information of wirestrikes on
its network. In addition, not all wirestrikes
result in a broken wire or interrupted
power supply, and so are not recorded
by electricity distribution companies.
And then there’s the fact that disused
overhead wires are not tracked, so
when they are damaged by an aircraft,
electricity companies aren’t notified.
Finally, there are many private power
lines out there, and we don’t have any
figures for them.’’
‘We’re urging pilots, and all aviation
stakeholders, to report any wirestrike to
the ATSB even if there’s no damage to
the aircraft and/or no injuries. There may
not even be any damage to the wires.
But the more we know, the better we
can do our job, which is to make flying in
Australia safer.’
The report Underreporting of Aviation
Wirestrikes is available on the ATSB
website at Australian Transport Safety Bureau Homepage
Notifications of safety related events can
be made via the toll free number
1800 011 034 (available 24/7) or via the
ATSB website.
Only a 2 months after this from ATSB
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Strip location:
S36 40 33 E144 23 16
I drive past here occasionally and every time I see the windsock I go "Huh!".
You can only see the hangar from the road as the strip runs downhill, and appears shorter than it is (from the road).
Google Earth is a bit fuzzy, but further east the powerline is about 30 metres north of the treeline.
I'll have a look tomorrow when I go past.
S36 40 33 E144 23 16
I drive past here occasionally and every time I see the windsock I go "Huh!".
You can only see the hangar from the road as the strip runs downhill, and appears shorter than it is (from the road).
Google Earth is a bit fuzzy, but further east the powerline is about 30 metres north of the treeline.
I'll have a look tomorrow when I go past.
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This is what we need....
Bicycle airbag | portable bicycle helmet
Bicycle airbag | portable bicycle helmet
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Cheer Up
A Cirrus could still strike that wire too mate!
The age of the fleet has nothing to do with hazard minimization or identification of hazards that are not part of the aircraft...
Aren't aircraft like good wine and women, getting better with age?
Isn't the riskiest flight the one AFTER 100hrly?
A Cirrus could still strike that wire too mate!
The age of the fleet has nothing to do with hazard minimization or identification of hazards that are not part of the aircraft...
Aren't aircraft like good wine and women, getting better with age?
Isn't the riskiest flight the one AFTER 100hrly?
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I understand that permission to land at this field has been withdrawn until further notice by the operator until changes to the procedures have been made. It appears to be a maintenance facility.
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There might be something in that. Even the newer Cessnas have air bags and much stronger seats and mountings with better head support that might increase survivability.... if they actually work. Have to admit some of those older planes with weedy seat frames, no headrests and minimal restraints do look a bit dodgy when compared to the average car these days.
There might be something in that. Even the newer Cessnas have air bags and much stronger seats and mountings with better head support that might increase survivability.... if they actually work. Have to admit some of those older planes with weedy seat frames, no headrests and minimal restraints do look a bit dodgy when compared to the average car these days.
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Cheer Up
A Cirrus could still strike that wire too mate!
The age of the fleet has nothing to do with hazard minimization or identification of hazards that are not part of the aircraft...
Aren't aircraft like good wine and women, getting better with age?
Isn't the riskiest flight the one AFTER 100hrly?
A Cirrus could still strike that wire too mate!
The age of the fleet has nothing to do with hazard minimization or identification of hazards that are not part of the aircraft...
Aren't aircraft like good wine and women, getting better with age?
Isn't the riskiest flight the one AFTER 100hrly?
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All new cars have to be fitted with ESC by law now.
Surely the weedy seats met strength standards for their COA originally.
No matter how safe your aircraft, it's always better to stay out of the wires...
Surely the weedy seats met strength standards for their COA originally.
No matter how safe your aircraft, it's always better to stay out of the wires...
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No names appear to have been released Debbie. Perhaps you can PM "Robbo" on The Aussie Aviator site as he says he knows pilot:
http://www.****************.net/thre...e-crash.34778/
Good luck.
(edit: hmmmm seems PPRuNe dont like us mentioning the opposition - even in a link.
)
TB
http://www.****************.net/thre...e-crash.34778/
Good luck.
(edit: hmmmm seems PPRuNe dont like us mentioning the opposition - even in a link.
)TB
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Here's an idea for an inventor:
We've all seen or heard about holding a fluorescent tube underneath high voltage power lines and seeing it light up.
Could such a "free" power source (induction loops I think they are called) be used for bright _flashing_ arrays of LEDs, visible even in daylight?
Install several of these along power lines.
Cost? Maybe $150 each. Mass produced by Chinese: Maybe $40.
Intelligent power companies would simply install them at the next scheduled maintenance. LEDs routine last 10,000+ hours although I don't know if this is affected by cycling, so they could conceivably last "a lifetime" and save many more.
We've all seen or heard about holding a fluorescent tube underneath high voltage power lines and seeing it light up.
Could such a "free" power source (induction loops I think they are called) be used for bright _flashing_ arrays of LEDs, visible even in daylight?
Install several of these along power lines.
Cost? Maybe $150 each. Mass produced by Chinese: Maybe $40.
Intelligent power companies would simply install them at the next scheduled maintenance. LEDs routine last 10,000+ hours although I don't know if this is affected by cycling, so they could conceivably last "a lifetime" and save many more.
They're already out there. And they talk to you too, broadcasting on the local area frequency when an aircraft is calculated to be approaching too closely to the power lines or radio tower. The power line system uses the magnetic field surrounding the cable itself to energize the doodad.
The FAA I believe has even certified the OCAS system to enable all those 2,000' high towers to have their beacon lights off at night until a plane gets too close...
The FAA I believe has even certified the OCAS system to enable all those 2,000' high towers to have their beacon lights off at night until a plane gets too close...
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