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Old 6th Sep 2012, 07:02
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haha.. some of u guys are blowing up over nothing really..

all i did was report in on what i noticed on the afap jobs page when it was locked this morning..
i have no need to join afap at the moment, so was simply saying i hope it remains a resource for guys like me until i score a job..
when i do, i most likely will join because of the benefits such membership provides its members as mentioned above..

j3pipercub, thanks for your contribution to the discussion..
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To all you whingers complaining about the employment page being locked up:

Don't be such a bunch of tightarses!! The AFAP owes you nothing if you're not a member.

Personally, I'm glad it's been locked. It's about time you freeloaders put your hands in your pocket and gave something back to the organisation.

On second thoughts, you're probably even too tight to spend a couple of bucks on a Friday Australian, that would be asking too much.
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Sadly, your post was typical of the 'social media' generation.

You saw that the webpage had changed. Instead of ringing the AFAP and asking "What's going on with that?", you post what you noticed on Prune, and make comments on how you feel about it.

In other words, rather than try to do anything to fix a problem you've noticed, you would prefer to go onto the internet and tell everyone how you feel about it.

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 07:24
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CP, that wasn't very nice. I'm trying to lose weight!

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AFAP Jobs page

Sorry to offend Guys! Omg touchy subject
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Smile

I wont be joining just to access that page though..
Sounds like a whinge to me.
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AFAP Jobs page

Personally though, why not keep it open, especially for the newbies out there..?
Afap is getting presumably good revenue from the advertising due to page views etc, and is gaining goodwill from the pilot community- whether member or not. Hell its free advertising for afap also and am sure if scored a job thru looking at their website, id be more inclined to investigate more into joining. Thats my view anyway, u guys got urs, so all good.
Time for a beer isnt it?
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 07:37
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HughJ, yeh it probably came across that way but not intended. What was trying to get at is that i have no interest in joining until im employed, and it will be for the other reasons and not just to access a jobs page.

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It's their website, if they locked it, which they haven't, why should you care ?.
Seems we have a gap....

(this was at 6pm'ish Thursday night AEST)

To access further information on our website, you must be an AFAP member.

If you are an AFAP member, please login using the login button below which will bring up a dialogue box. You may then enter your username and password. If you have forgotten your username and password you can send an email from the login dialogue box and details to login will be emailed immediately.

If you wish to join the Federation, please contact the office on ph: (03) 9928 5737 email: [email protected] or click on the link below:


Application Form - click here
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 08:22
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Seems to lock and unlock every couple of hours
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 08:28
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Might call them up in the morning to ask wtf? as per previous suggestions
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 09:05
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Union Heavy here

j3pipercub, thanks for your contribution to the discussion
No worries pissant, I've met scores like you, the old "what has the union done for me", "I might join after the negotiations", "I can get better loss of license elsewhere" "I can't afford the 1% right now (after showing me his flash new car)" blah blah blah. You're all the same, all talk, no substance. When it comes time for EBA negotiations time or interpretting a phrase in the EBA, you all want someone with an IR background (that the AFAP provides), but outside that time, it's the f*ck you Jack mentality.

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 09:31
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j3, little pissant here.

u must get cheap thrills on here to label someone a pissant etc. Have i been offensive to anyone except expressing a view?
As I've said in previous posts, was just reporting something to the pprune community with a little commentary.
I'm sure my view is just as worthy as yours or anyone elses? obviously not to some.

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 09:33
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Jesus there are some right knobs on here.

How many of you were in the afap before you had your CPL?

Propelled, don't listen to them.....
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 09:48
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They will lose a lot of potential members by shutting down the Job spectrum and leaving it to the members only. It actually helped me find my first job and then I was able to join the afap as a member and I have been a member since.Afap has been there for me since the beginning and I was quiet happy to give back after I was successful in the industry. I feel for the younger pilots who have no idea where to look or what to do. I would be annoyed too.
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A company website is a relative cheap way to advertise, and drawing prospective customers to the sellers website brings people to the product.

Undoubtedly a reason exists for the change,..perhaps the print media are pissed due to replication of their ads, or....etc, etc. (Maybe even a glitch in the system?).

Whatever, the AFAP should advise as to the why the change has occurred. Nothing gets people offside more than than a change of policy without information. And those offside people are prospective AFAP members!

If it is new policy to lock-out non-members from the "job site" I offer my disagreement vote.


Disclaimer: paid up member AFAP & MMFB (btw couldn't access the job site without my password)
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 10:02
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He has his CPL and to answer your question I was a paid member of the AFAP 5 days after my CPL was issued.

propelled,

It is your very views that are offensive to me. The freeloading, something for nothing mentality that you seem to express throughout your posts.

I wont be joining just to access that page though..
i have no need to join afap at the moment, so was simply saying i hope it remains a resource for guys like me until i score a job..
Why should my membership fees help you find a job?

gaining goodwill from the pilot community- whether member or not.
Goodwill? Why? Where does that get you?

Hell its free advertising for afap also and am sure if scored a job thru looking at their website, id be more inclined to investigate more into joining.
But haven't said you'd definitely join, but you'd DEFINITELY investigate it more. As I said, your mentality is just like the rest.

Finally, I don't get cheap thrills calling you a pissant, but if the shoe fits...

Prove me wrong, download the membership form and JOIN. Ab initio membership is FREE and Unemployed membership is $77 a year. I will call anyone a liar who tells me they cannot afford that poultry amount for membership.

Back to the picket line

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 10:25
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'little pissant' here again,

if you take offence to what I have said, then good luck to you in social settings and workplaces! and you look so unprofessional in your replies to my 'offensive remarks'

no way will i ring up to join them just to please you.

As I've said earlier, I will only join them if I feel the need to at a later date.
But as other members have now suggested, they are quite possibly shooting themselves in the foot to drive memberships, etc, if this will be locked to non-members.
I don't mind either way, still have the paper to read, and contacts out there in the big bad world..
no need to act like a tosser about things buddy!
waiting for a thread lock, maybe its entertainment, not much on tv tonight until footy show..
will be my last reply on the matter anyway. I accept your view on it, you cant accept mine, understood.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 10:27
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We are only talking about a small part of the website showing jobs FFS.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 10:35
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Alternatively you could just wait for the Australian jobs section on Saturday and see them all for free like most people that read them!
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