Air NZ to interview again?

[Iron Hide]

Any truth to the latest rumor that Air NZ's hold pool to be depleted next year and interviewing to finally start up again?

I've heard 3 - 4 rounds with 25 - 40 starts per year for the foreseeable future. Maybe someone in the know could elaborate.

Cheers

[27/09]

Iron Hide

Any truth to the latest rumor that Air NZ's hold pool to be depleted next year and interviewing to finally start up again?

I've heard 3 - 4 rounds with 25 - 40 starts per year for the foreseeable future. Maybe someone in the know could elaborate.

Cheers

Actually they've been recruiting steadily this year, it called recruit to group. From what I hear probably in excess of 40 starts per year.

[SkySurfin]

Iron hide you are correct. There was an internal memo sent out yesterday with those exact numbers, they are applicable to jet fleet recruitment only. 6 pilots have just been given starts in September- 2 on the 767 and 4 on the 777.

They plan to keep the hold pool at around 25 pilots not 50 as in previous years with the intent of handing out starts within 12 months of interview.

They also outlined the preferences in terms of experience which they take into account when searching for suitable candidates. I will abbreviate them in order for the benefit of pilots looking at a career on the jet fleet with Air NZ.

1. Preferably from Air NZ link
2. Command time
3. Multi time
4. Turbine time
5. ATO OPs
6. IFR experience
7. IFR currency


They mention that all new hires will start as an SO on either 767 or 777

The interview process will include-
Sim
Formal interview
Tech quiz
Group exercise and 1:1 role play :-s
Pshyc testing (which they have trialled with the regional airline RTG)


I hope this helps anyone out there looking to join Air NZ.
Cheers

[minimum_wage]

So number one experience preference for the jet fleet is non jet pilots, and the number two experience preference is command time for second officer positions. Seems kinda ironic.
But good luck the guys in the links who have been patiently waiting for some time. Hope it happens for you soon

[Pamelah Andersen]

Don't waste your time waiting for Air NZ.

Join Virgin or go offshore.

With most captains reverting to FO at age 65 anyone joining now will be an SO for at least a decade on minimum wage. Remember SO time is worthless and not recognised by Emirates etc.

[billyt]

If you need to live in NZ then apply. Expect up to 10 years in the centre seat.

If you don't need to live in NZ then go where promotion is quicker.

This thread is in the wrong forum. It should be in

DG&P Reporting Points - PPRuNe Forums

[juliet]

Pamelah - most Captains are NOT moving to the right hand seat, some are. There are in fact also a reasonable number of Captains leaving before they are 65. Have no idea about Emirates but SO time at ANZ is not the same as at Cathay where the pilot holds a P2X. An ANZ SO type rating shows the same as any other pilots at ANZ. If you want to go to Virgin or offshore go by all means, ANZ isn't the be all and end all, but its pretty good, and much better than a lot of other options out there.

Raropilot - its competitive out there, so yeah, some basic educational requirements are needed. A degree isn't a must have.

Billyt - maybe 10 years, current guys are around the 8 year mark but that is coming down for those following. If you're worried about doing takeoffs and landings and can't bear to watch someone else do it then there are the Links/Jetstar/overseas. If your interested in money/time off/lifestyle/stability then ANZ is hard to beat.

Juliet

[Offcut]

Pamelah, I hate to burst your bubble but S/O's do a bit better than min wage. My taxable income last year was in the region of 115k, plus allowances and super. That said, anyone applying should go in with their eyes wide open. You will be an S/O for at least five years before an A320 job comes up, and it could be 8-9 years. It is frustrating as hell but that's the ball game. Air NZ S/O's hold full type ratings and log all flying as co-pilot time, however, it is of limited use when it comes to applying to other jobs and won't get you into Emirates if you change your mind. You are basically throwing your lot in with Air NZ when you take an S/O job.

[juliet]

Hadn't spotted the bit in Pamelahs post about minimum wage. What world are some of these people living in! Yes you will be on the initial few levels of the pay scale, but its bloody good money and more than you will make if you were to fly for someone else in NZ.

Feel free to go to Emirates, plenty of other guys willing to wait for the ANZ spot.

[27/09]

Wrong Forum

If you need to live in NZ then apply. Expect up to 10 years in the centre seat.

If you don't need to live in NZ then go where promotion is quicker.

This thread is in the wrong forum. It should be in

DG&P Reporting Points - PPRuNe Forums

Billy T, I agree however look here. http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-a...oderators.html

[Offcut]

If you aren't too bothered what country you live in then you would have rocks in your head to apply to Air NZ. Short of a Cathay AKL base, which it appears are no longer available, then Air NZ is the best gig in town by a long shot. But you will make more money and get promoted faster pretty much anywhere else offshore.

To those of you thinking about applying to Air NZ, make sure you are doing it for the right reasons. They are, good rosters/time off, rock solid seniority system, nice hotels, decent allowances, and one day in the distant future, the promise of a widebody command. If you are a young thruster who loves stick and rudder and want to fly the big jets........, go to JetStar, get some hours and bugger off to the sandpit.

[pakeha-boy]

juliet quote...."If your interested in money/time off/lifestyle/stability then ANZ is hard to beat."...................B****E!!!!!!!

MATE ...Started out in kiwi...as a kiwi...flying....buggered off.......some of us just didnt have the pedigree.....Tired of hearing that kiwi is the only place for the above.....

Have quite a few years in NTH and STH America,kiwi,oz,and now asia.....have all of the above and have never regretted it...have a place in Auckland and pohara.......have always had money,time off,lifestyle and stability.....some of you were still swinging in your dads bags when I was milking cows......

I f you want the so-called "ANZ" 'prestige....go for it....my advice..open the other eye....life is not so bad out side of it........kiwi wont disappear,it wil always be there....

[Offcut]

Pakeha boy, I think what he was getting at was it is the best option IF you want to stay in NZ. We all know there is a big world out there, but for those of us that choose to live and work in NZ then Air NZ the best bet as far as I can see. And no, I don't do it for the "prestige". It may surprise you that most of the guys and girls in Air NZ have worked offshore and chose to return home. We aren't all small town simpletons who think NZ is the centre of world aviation.

[slamer.]

"The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks."

[pakeha-boy]

yeah mate...was just taking the piss a little bit..a lot really....sort of thought some of it was bloody obvious...then again........have many good mates at ANZ....just love to take a bit of a poke once in a while.........those of us that left were always the better pilots.....they know it......INCOMING!!!!.....

[slamer.]

And there was me thinking it was the Australians ...!

[juliet]

Pakeha boy,

One of the first things I said was that anz isn't the be all and end all. I know that because I too have flown all over the world and been able to make comparisons. I stand by my comments which are saying that in nz anz is pretty much the best thing going in terms of a combined package of money/time off/stability/lifestyle.

Personally I don't really care about doing take offs and landings or about getting a wide body command, the two big issues people always raise. The simple fact is that Ive done better hands on flying and held commands elsewhere, so I'm not too worried about doing it at anz.

To be honest the more guys that head overseas the better as I have plenty of mates waiting to get in that I would love to share a flight deck with, instead of some of the whingers out there who seem to love just running things down that they don't know anything about.

[Ollie Onion]

I currently have a jet command and would happily join Air New Zealand as an SO. Why??

- Turboprop FO and Command.... been there done that
- Shorthaul FO and Command.... been there done that
- Longhaul FO..... been there done that

After 3 different airlines and the above positions the most important thing to me is, stability in my roster, a good seniority system and the ability to at some point move between long and short haul. Money no longer is the most important thing for me.

At 35 years old, if I joined Air New Zealand I may never see a command again, does that thought worry me... NO. But that is what is great about the world, everyone has a different focus in life.

I have had an application in with Air New Zealand for a few years now and would happily give it a crack if lucky enough to be offered an interview.

[Duff]

Any truth to the rumour that all yes letters are being re-interviewed over the next few months?

[skytops]

Offcut, Do you mind if I ask what a years's worth of allowances as an SO amounts to? And similarly for your pension?

Thanks.