Cathay interviews perth(SO transition training)
...and have a very good read of the 'Wannabes' forum while you are there. Filter out the B.S., work out who the old hands are who are 'telling it like it is' and while you are at it, check out Hong Kong property rents. I am not going to repeat it all here but your main worries will be:
- Bonded to the company by a 'forgiveable loan'
- A useless P2X rating until you upgrade to Junior First Officer (years away)
- 15 to 20 years to Command, on degraded conditions which undercut current crew
- Due to Company tax stuffups etc no new basings slots for the foreseeable future, and hundreds of senior crew in the line ahead of you anyway
- Where are you going to live in Hong Kong for the meagre housing allowance they will give you?
- And a few more issues which will become self-evident.
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Dart only left out one thing : are you a smoker ? If not you soon will be, and the best part is, it's free 
Currently 4 1/2 years to JFO
Living in the 3rd most expensive city in the world on 6k Aussie a month ( minus 16% )
You'll need more than the force
Currently 4 1/2 years to JFO
Living in the 3rd most expensive city in the world on 6k Aussie a month ( minus 16% )
You'll need more than the force
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If I can suggest talking to someone who actually works for CX or is in recruitment. Much of the information passed on in the fragrant harbour forum or this thread is not a true reflection on actual conditions.
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Possibilities
1. Management stooge trying to fix the woeful recruiting
Or
2. Absolutely no idea.
The facts are there to be read on these forums. If you take cadet package you can't say you were not warned.
1. Management stooge trying to fix the woeful recruiting
Or
2. Absolutely no idea.
The facts are there to be read on these forums. If you take cadet package you can't say you were not warned.
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I don't know if you have watched your own video post but Dick says upgrade time is currently 4 years, no different to what has been posted here.
If you read the propaganda it mentions pilots being able to take bases, go and ask the CX guys how easy it is to take a base in Oz, then ask them when their command is coming up on the base......never.
Go and ask some of the new second officers what sort of place their housing allowance is getting them in HK.
It used to be good, not now.
If you read the propaganda it mentions pilots being able to take bases, go and ask the CX guys how easy it is to take a base in Oz, then ask them when their command is coming up on the base......never.
Go and ask some of the new second officers what sort of place their housing allowance is getting them in HK.
It used to be good, not now.
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I share your frustration. I know mate, such terrible work living/ conditions, pay, planes, career progression, roster, such an awful package. Why would anyone want this? You have got to be crazy.
You must be aware that the gentleman on the video was a member of the 'Star Chamber' that selected over fifty Cathay Pacific pilots for termination 'for no particular reason' in an attempt to intimidate the rest of the flight crew.
This has tainted management-pilot relations for over a decade, and is still the subject of ongoing legal action. A cowardly act of pilot against pilot.
There is also rumor of senior management displeasure over his handling of crewing and the based crew 'double taxation' debacle.
This has tainted management-pilot relations for over a decade, and is still the subject of ongoing legal action. A cowardly act of pilot against pilot.
There is also rumor of senior management displeasure over his handling of crewing and the based crew 'double taxation' debacle.
Erm...no 
. The poster was making an attempt at levity by comparing breathing of Hong Kong's polluted air to cigarette smoking.
. The poster was making an attempt at levity by comparing breathing of Hong Kong's polluted air to cigarette smoking.
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An attempt at levity, bit harsh on old ADB Cap'n Dart .
Ok, I guess it wasn't that funny as it actually kills people ( the pollution ) and makes 10s of 1000s of people ill.
At the moment 4 years to get the notification of upgrade and your first JFO pay at around 4 1/2 years.
The double tax on basing issue would almost be unbelievable if it was anywhere else in the world but HK, SNAFU.
Ok, I guess it wasn't that funny as it actually kills people ( the pollution ) and makes 10s of 1000s of people ill.
At the moment 4 years to get the notification of upgrade and your first JFO pay at around 4 1/2 years.
The double tax on basing issue would almost be unbelievable if it was anywhere else in the world but HK, SNAFU.
