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and note that he avoids that and flies right next to the cloud where he can't be seen.
An idiot, like the one who flew through the trees at a caravan park in Queensland.
Doesn't say much for HGFA if that's where their training comes from.
An idiot, like the one who flew through the trees at a caravan park in Queensland.
Doesn't say much for HGFA if that's where their training comes from.
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Aussie Bob
Clearly you are out of your depth arguing that one.
If he was cloud surfing at 1500 feet you could argue he is now out of the range of any legitimate IFR aircraft either inbound to learmonth or Exmouth.
But it is quite clear he was not. When I posted yesterday I looked at the 18VOR and the DME/gps arrival plates. They give plenty of scope to whack these guys below 3000 even, so despite rules and regs, this is a dumb place to do what he is doing.
My recent trip around OZ surprised the heck out of me at the traffic levels over there. The Aluminium to Air ratio is smaller than I thought
Clearly you are out of your depth arguing that one.
If he was cloud surfing at 1500 feet you could argue he is now out of the range of any legitimate IFR aircraft either inbound to learmonth or Exmouth.
But it is quite clear he was not. When I posted yesterday I looked at the 18VOR and the DME/gps arrival plates. They give plenty of scope to whack these guys below 3000 even, so despite rules and regs, this is a dumb place to do what he is doing.
My recent trip around OZ surprised the heck out of me at the traffic levels over there. The Aluminium to Air ratio is smaller than I thought
AussieBob, let me get this straight.
You're saying, that because I'm IFR, I should be avoiding that little bit of cloud, because I might slam into some VFR IDIOT who's breaking the rules by flying in that cloud?
By your reasoning, maybe they should change the rules around. IFR should be required to remain clear of cloud etc., and VFR can go punching through them whenever they want.
You are a hazard to society old mate.
morno
You're saying, that because I'm IFR, I should be avoiding that little bit of cloud, because I might slam into some VFR IDIOT who's breaking the rules by flying in that cloud?
By your reasoning, maybe they should change the rules around. IFR should be required to remain clear of cloud etc., and VFR can go punching through them whenever they want.
You are a hazard to society old mate.
morno
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if I'm joining the arc for 18 practicing a VOR in otherwise VMC I still would not expect to see a hanglider 5milliseconds before I slam into him
That should keep him clear of the 12 mile arc for the 18 VOR.
I would hope that he is monitoring the radio if anywhere near the YPLM CTAF.
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If you aren't qualified to, your aircraft is not certified for it and you want to smash through cloud, go and buy a $59 airfare and fly from Melbourne to Sydney on an airliner whilst looking out the window. There's a good chance you'll smash through some kind of cloud.
Apart from maybe not advising any IFR a/c of his position nothing he did was remotely dangerous, so get over yourselves and move on.
Would I encourage a low time Pilot to do this? Certainly not but this guys was quite experienced.
Who made you the fun Police anyway.
Nanny state wanna bees.....
Would I encourage a low time Pilot to do this? Certainly not but this guys was quite experienced.
Who made you the fun Police anyway.
Nanny state wanna bees.....
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The risk might be very low, nonetheless if your IFR and your on the opposite side of the cloud to the Hangglider, look as hard as you want your not going to be able see and avoid.
You quite rightfully enter the little bit of cloud not expecting any un-identified traffic in and around the cloud yet you might be at risk of collision because hes lurking around there enjoying his cloud surfing adventure.
Rules are rules , makes perfect sense to me why this one needs to exists.
You quite rightfully enter the little bit of cloud not expecting any un-identified traffic in and around the cloud yet you might be at risk of collision because hes lurking around there enjoying his cloud surfing adventure.
Rules are rules , makes perfect sense to me why this one needs to exists.
But isn't one of the benefits of RA (or hang glider fed or whatever defence you want to use) that you DON'T have to follow the rules?
Funny, seems to be the impression many of this guy's defenders present here.
And yet RA want's to have all the GA privileges, such as airspace, night, CPL training......
RA will kill you just as fast when you f
ck it up.
Not saying there aren't RA operators who do take their activities seriously, but is it any wonder there seems to be this conception that GA looks down on RA?
You're a lot less likely to get killed by following the rules. That's what they're there for.
Funny, seems to be the impression many of this guy's defenders present here.
And yet RA want's to have all the GA privileges, such as airspace, night, CPL training......
RA will kill you just as fast when you f
ck it up.Not saying there aren't RA operators who do take their activities seriously, but is it any wonder there seems to be this conception that GA looks down on RA?
You're a lot less likely to get killed by following the rules. That's what they're there for.
Good one Nitpicker you have upset all the kids here. How dare you hang your widebody in Class A airspace (bet you do it non standard too!) 
Still wanna try of one these little machines. Will have to drive up there though as it sounds far too bloody dangerous to fly.
The Don
Still wanna try of one these little machines. Will have to drive up there though as it sounds far too bloody dangerous to fly.
The Don
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MakeItHappenCaptain, this person doesn't belong to RA and doesn't fly under the rules of RA, or have any more connection to RA than an RPT does.
Here's the link to the HGFA (Hang Gliding Federation of Australia) website
HGFA - Hang Gliding Federation of Australia
You'll notice a little shot of the thingy he's flying towards the right of the page.
If you want to see what a sensible post looks like, you couldn't go further than InTheWeeds #75
Here's the link to the HGFA (Hang Gliding Federation of Australia) website
HGFA - Hang Gliding Federation of Australia
You'll notice a little shot of the thingy he's flying towards the right of the page.
If you want to see what a sensible post looks like, you couldn't go further than InTheWeeds #75
Just goto Youtube and search for Agnes Water flight or 1770 flight etc.
Ooodles of backpacker posted vids of that clown doing aeros in a 172 etc.....
Silly
Ooodles of backpacker posted vids of that clown doing aeros in a 172 etc.....
Silly
I spend a bit of time each year flying for fun in GA and its both IFR and VFR. So the last thing I would want is a near collision with someone VFR in cloud!!!
However if you care to re read my posts you will see that I mention use of the RADIO by this Pilot to advise ATC of his location. IF he had done that then I don't see any problem.
Ok?
However if you care to re read my posts you will see that I mention use of the RADIO by this Pilot to advise ATC of his location. IF he had done that then I don't see any problem.
Ok?
You're saying, that because I'm IFR, I should be avoiding that little bit of cloud, because I might slam into some VFR IDIOT who's breaking the rules by flying in that cloud?
Question: The base is 3000 and its 8/8 solid. Someone is cruising along, VFR, fin in the clouds legally. How are you going to avoid them on your approach?
The trike pilot is a professional and I am assuming he is monitorng a radio.
Its a big bad dangerous world out there, you'll all take care now.
Yawn, sigh, zzzzzzzzzzzzz no more to say on this thread zzzzzz
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Machadotuaghtme...
Wow a bunch of low flying... I am so impressed
I trust no "Aussies" were involved in this.
What a bunch of amateur clowns. Anyone with any low flying/formation experience would be able to spot the dozens of times these idiots left themselves no "outs" with their small d@ck routine.
They should go mustering, spraying or join the military if that's what excites them. At least they will learn how to do it properly. I wonder if the insurance company has seen this footage I can't think of a reason why a C210 should be flown in such a manner. Tools.
Not implying you endorse this, just referencing your video.
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Wow a bunch of low flying... I am so impressed
I trust no "Aussies" were involved in this. What a bunch of amateur clowns. Anyone with any low flying/formation experience would be able to spot the dozens of times these idiots left themselves no "outs" with their small d@ck routine.
They should go mustering, spraying or join the military if that's what excites them. At least they will learn how to do it properly. I wonder if the insurance company has seen this footage
I can't think of a reason why a C210 should be flown in such a manner. Tools.Not implying you endorse this, just referencing your video.
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